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ticki2

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Posted: 08/06/22 05:03pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

First thing I would do is try the X rotation as your tire guy said and see what happens with the TPMS . If in fact it screws up the display , shame on Ram . To not be able to move an inner rear except side to side is crazy. If it was me I would sacrifice the TPMS in favor of proper rotation and better tire wear . In 65 years of driving I have had 0 blowouts and only a handful of flats , knock on wood . A blowout is instantaneous so it doesn’t seem TPMS is going to be too helpful . Just my 2 cents


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The guy at the tire place told me that I needed to replace all 6 tires even though it was only the front tires showing wear. He said that on a dually you need to replace all tires at once. I told this to someone in a campground who said it is completely untrue. Maybe there is concern about matching the 4 rear tires, but he said the front tires can be replaced independent of the back tires.

So maybe follow the manual and if the front tires wear out sooner I can replace only the front tires. Opinions?


That is what I did with my dually. The rear tires will last a LOT longer than the front tires, and you save a bit of money over time.


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I always replace the tire on 1 axle as needed. Maybe if I had all wheel drive I would be sure they all matched to protect differentials. 4X4, only engaged with poor traction, not as much of issue. The axles do different jobs, so it stands to reason tires will wear at different rates. Often on my vehicles, tires don't match front/rear.
One thing to watch when moving a steering tire to dual; If the tires you mount side by each are just a little different in height the short one will not last any time. And as it wears, it will wear at a ever faster rate.

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Posted: 08/08/22 06:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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“The Tire Pressure Information System uses unique sensors in the inner rear wheels to help identify them from the outer rear wheels, because of this, the inner and outer wheel locations cannot be switched”.


THIS is why they do not show rotating tires front to rear.

Since you can't rotate the inners to the front, you wouldn't want to rotate the outers to the front either, because the inner tires never get any front wear.


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Posted: 08/08/22 06:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ticki2 wrote:

First thing I would do is try the X rotation as your tire guy said and see what happens with the TPMS . If in fact it screws up the display , shame on Ram . To not be able to move an inner rear except side to side is crazy. If it was me I would sacrifice the TPMS in favor of proper rotation and better tire wear . In 65 years of driving I have had 0 blowouts and only a handful of flats , knock on wood . A blowout is instantaneous so it doesn’t seem TPMS is going to be too helpful . Just my 2 cents


Blowouts are not instantaneous. They will be preceded by a rise in temperature, and a corresponding rise in pressure. The TPMS should warn you of a tire getting hot so you can get pulled over before it blows.

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I stopped doing routine tire rotations decades ago. I have not had any issues with premature or irregular tire wear. If there is a problem with the suspension, then rotations might just cover it up. Instead get the alignment or other issue fixed.

The idea of routine tire rotations should die along with the 3000 mile oil change.

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JimK-NY wrote:

I stopped doing routine tire rotations decades ago. I have not had any issues with premature or irregular tire wear. If there is a problem with the suspension, then rotations might just cover it up. Instead get the alignment or other issue fixed.

The idea of routine tire rotations should die along with the 3000 mile oil change.


While I may be inclined to agree with you with respect to rear duals, you are insinuating “all” wheels and all vehicles……
All I can say is folks ignorant about tire rotations hopefully don’t read this and believe what you said.
Do some of you just write opposites stuff to watch what ensues or actually believe it?

And bobbolotune don’t be gullible. Your “tire guy” is a ripoff.


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JimK-NY wrote:

I stopped doing routine tire rotations decades ago. I have not had any issues with premature or irregular tire wear. If there is a problem with the suspension, then rotations might just cover it up. Instead get the alignment or other issue fixed.

The idea of routine tire rotations should die along with the 3000 mile oil change.
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JimK-NY wrote:

I stopped doing routine tire rotations decades ago. I have not had any issues with premature or irregular tire wear. If there is a problem with the suspension, then rotations might just cover it up. Instead get the alignment or other issue fixed.

The idea of routine tire rotations should die along with the 3000 mile oil change.


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1969, 1 of the instructors at GM training center got in trouble for telling future techs (called mechanics back then LOL) the reason to make sure tires where rotated was to hide factory mis-alignment until the warranty ran out.
Tire companies love people that rotate their tires, because instead of 1 wearing a little, then car fixed the same problem might sell 10-15 tires.
Before the All Season Radial, would "rotate" the back 2 tires on the car twice a year/ snow tires. (Pickups, every spring the "snow tires" changed into "mud grips")

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