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NamMedevac 70 wrote:Defund the police has led to police shortage many places folks. Is this another joke with a political agenda?
Really?
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Time2cra you are really living on Mars as there has been widespread news reporting from CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, WP, NYT and other of your that there is a critical police shortage in places like Seattle, Portland, Or, many others etc due to defund the police. You live in a protected little bubble evidently. Get a life and go fishing as is good for your digestion.
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I'm curious - is the CC on a diesel pickup higher or lower priority for a thief? I heard the CCs on a diesel are less likely to be stolen. But it was never confirmed.
Years ago, we had a ATV stolen during the night while parked at a RV park. They simply rolled it away some time during the night. Harbor Freight sells a "driveway alert" and its cheap. If I had placed it underneath the ATV, they wouldn't have been successful.
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valhalla360 wrote:PastorCharlie wrote:The cables add about another 30-60 seconds to removing the cat. It is surprising what one can do in a second who is trained in their profession. LSU football team made a touchdown in 1 second.
Tools needed: Battery powered high speed cut-off tool.
I'd be surprised if it takes that long.
As far as "deterrent"...by the time they see the orange paint and bondage cables, they are already underneath the rig and committed.
Also, if you do manage to annoy them, do they cut something else while they are under to get back at you? Wouldn't take but a few seconds, to nick some electrical or hydraulic lines.
I've heard this philosophy before (don't anger the criminals). I understand why someone would suggest this as yes there is a chance that someone *could* do something out of anger if you've protected your property. I 100% understand that logic.
But then I consider the flip side of that argument....Should I remove the catalytic converter ahead of time for the criminal and just leave it on the ground with a thank you note? This way they almost certainly will be happy with me and the chances of them slashing my tires or damaging anything else under my RV goes way down almost to 0%... With that logic, I should also leave me RV external compartments not only unlocked, but open slightly so thieves know they don't need to break my compartment locks or compartment doors....and I should leave my RV unlocked so they don't break a window or door to get in if they want. Should this thinking extend to my other cars and my home residence also? Should I leave my doors unlocked and windows open at my house so that I don't anger a thief who wants to steal from me or harm me? Should I remove the password to login to my laptop in case someone wants to steal it and then they get angry and damage it and decide they want to damage other things because they are upset? Is putting a password on my online banking accounts a bad idea? If someone tries to access my online banking accounts and cannot steal all my money, maybe they get really angry and decide to come and do me bodily harm??
Seems like the choices are...
a) Do nothing except what normal people do (lock their doors, windows, and then just "hope" the odds game runs in your favor forever...)
b) Make it overly simple for any would be thief to walk away with any of your belongings at any time simply because you don't want to upset a criminal so that maybe they don't do any additional damage...
c) Take some simple, inexpensive, hopefully effective steps to try to tilt the odds in your favor that you will not become a victim of theft by making it harder on criminals to steal from you so they will likely just move on to another target
I'll choose "C" and take my chances. Everyone gets to make their own choice. I wish you all the best of luck as I truly hate criminals and I hope they don't steal from you (or me) next.
I personally would never want to have a face to face with a criminal while they are trying to steal from me. That doesn't interest me (even though I'm a supporter of the 2nd Amendment). I don't even want to PERSONALLY cause harm to criminals (...probably mostly because I'd be fearful they or their crew would want revenge). But that doesn't stop me from enjoying hearing about "when bad things happen to criminals" like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC89-OzCdJs
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn8iMw3Hesw
or
https://sfist.com/2022/04/13/man-run-over-and-killed-while-attempting-to-steal-catalytic-converter-in-sacramento/
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valhalla360
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SJ-Chris wrote:I've heard this philosophy before (don't anger the criminals). I understand why someone would suggest this as yes there is a chance that someone *could* do something out of anger if you've protected your property. I 100% understand that logic.
But then I consider the flip side of that argument....Should I remove the catalytic converter ahead of time for the criminal and just leave it on the ground with a thank you note?
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Safe travels!
Chris
Reducto ad absurdum....look it up if you aren't familiar.
I'd pick option a) and carry insurance.
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valhalla360 wrote:SJ-Chris wrote:I've heard this philosophy before (don't anger the criminals). I understand why someone would suggest this as yes there is a chance that someone *could* do something out of anger if you've protected your property. I 100% understand that logic.
But then I consider the flip side of that argument....Should I remove the catalytic converter ahead of time for the criminal and just leave it on the ground with a thank you note?
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Safe travels!
Chris
Reducto ad absurdum....look it up if you aren't familiar.
I'd pick option a) and carry insurance.
Yes, my example is intentionally a bit ridiculous to make a point. Agreed.
So the choices come down to "a" and "c".
a) Do nothing except what normal people do (lock their doors, windows, and then just "hope" the odds game runs in your favor forever...)
c) Take some simple, inexpensive, hopefully effective steps to try to tilt the odds in your favor that you will not become a victim of theft by making it harder on criminals to steal from you so they will likely just move on to another target
Consider this....In either event there is damage from a theft AND insurance covers it. So I would rather choose "C" and improve my odds of preventing a theft in the first place.
What it really comes down to is this: For $100 it gives me piece of mind. It also reduces the chances that a thief is going to inconvenience me for 1-6 weeks at a time when I need this RV for personal travel or one of my renters. Either of those could be hugely painful and/or expensive.
To each their own!
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Chris
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Here in the country I have 4 vehicles outside with the keys in them including my DP. Been that way for years--But that long driveway only has one way out and that little black box on the gate pole will let me know if you choose to come in and I switch on the flood lights--HELLO!
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SJ-Chris wrote:
I've heard this philosophy before (don't anger the criminals). I understand why someone would suggest this as yes there is a chance that someone *could* do something out of anger if you've protected your property. I 100% understand that logic.
Chris
I've experienced it. Our Hybrid TT was broken into. It was in a storage lot. I was driving by one day and saw the door wide open. I went to take a look and noticed the door lock had been pried open. I only locked it, did not put the deadbolt on. It didn't look like anything had been touched. The police thought they were probably just looking for a place to sleep.
I closed the door and put the deadbolt on. A few days later, the Storage Lot called and told us it was broken into again. This time, they couldn't get in, so they broke the window on the door and even tore the metal skin of the door a couple inches. Then they cut the coupler lock off and cut the tether for the fresh water fill's cap. Just for fun, they went to another TT and cut their coupler lock off as well.
So yeah, don't piss the criminals off.
-Michael
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It a sad world we live in when we have to worry about pissing off criminals.
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mgirardo wrote:SJ-Chris wrote:
I've heard this philosophy before (don't anger the criminals). I understand why someone would suggest this as yes there is a chance that someone *could* do something out of anger if you've protected your property. I 100% understand that logic.
Chris
I've experienced it. Our Hybrid TT was broken into. It was in a storage lot. I was driving by one day and saw the door wide open. I went to take a look and noticed the door lock had been pried open. I only locked it, did not put the deadbolt on. It didn't look like anything had been touched. The police thought they were probably just looking for a place to sleep.
I closed the door and put the deadbolt on. A few days later, the Storage Lot called and told us it was broken into again. This time, they couldn't get in, so they broke the window on the door and even tore the metal skin of the door a couple inches. Then they cut the coupler lock off and cut the tether for the fresh water fill's cap. Just for fun, they went to another TT and cut their coupler lock off as well.
So yeah, don't piss the criminals off.
-Michael
Sorry that happened to you....it sucks!
I'm curious, what did you do next? Did you move your trailer to a safer storage location (harder for the criminals)? Did you do anything to deter future criminals like install motion lighting? Did you just get your trailer fixed and put it back in the same storage with zero changes (hoping nothing happens again)? Or do you now store your TT and just leave the doors unlocked to make it easier for the criminals?
One thing comes to mind here... It doesn't sound like the people who hit your TT were criminals in the sense that they were looking to steal items for profit/$$ (maybe). It sounds like it might have been (as you mentioned) someone just looking for a place to sleep, or do drugs, etc. Or maybe it was kids/teenagers out causing trouble.
I hope they have moved on to somewhere else and leave you alone (or better yet, gotten caught in the act somewhere else). It sucks when people mess with our stuff.
-Chris
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