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thomas201

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Posted: 09/16/22 05:56am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Groover wrote:

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Well give me 450 miles with the heater or A/C running, and a competitive total cost of ownership and yes. For the past 5 years, I make two 424 round trip mile journeys to NJ each month to visit my MIL. The nursing home does not have a charger, and it is my only stop for more than 5 minutes. The Honda CRV and the F250 (with aux tank) can get the job done. I will keep making the trip until I or my MIL pass. Sometimes I miss a trip, but not often.

I am the one that thinks EV's are a dead end. The path forward is stripping CO2 using amines from the air (just like subs, or cleaning CO2 from natural gas), then use U of Pittsburgh catalyst to make carbon monoxide, split hydrogen out of water, and use the Fischer–Tropsch process to make gasoline and diesel. Look for it to come to a Ford class carrier near you. After all, a gallon of jet fuel delivered to a carrier at sea has gotta be expensive. The fuel produced, will just blend in with the rest.

This is also a storage scheme for renewable power from solar and wind. I think the cost of this method will make it work.


There seems to be a dearth of Superchargers between WV and NJ so it would be a little premature for you to get a Tesla yet. I don't know how mountainous WV is where you are driving but in the western parts regeneration would save you a lot of brake wear and tear when going down hills and then a lot of fuel going up the next one.

I really like the idea of synthetic gasoline but I have been reading stories about it being on the verge of practicality for 30 or 40 years. A lot longer than we have been waiting for the Tesla Semi or Cybertruck. I will believe it when I can buy it. But it would be nice to have a clean fuel for the engines that I already own.


Actually Germany produced a lot of their liquid fuel from coal in WWII and South Africa still uses the facilities to produce liquid fuel from coal, that started up in the sanctions era. It all depends on the oil price. The breakthrough is in the catalyst to split CO2 to CO. Once you have CO and Hydrogen, you can make any fuel, plus methanol and ammonia. Chemical plants intentionally make CO by burning hydrocarbons without enough Oxygen. Google syngas. In other words all of the fertilizer used by farmers is made by the same process. It is used today.

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zjtins wrote:

The all use CVTs which only last about 100k miles, then $5k to replace.


Where did you get that information? My Volt has NO transmission. Direct drive from the Voltec motor by battery until battery is depleted and then driven by generator powered by IC engine.

No need for a transmission when using electric motors to power the wheels.


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zjtins wrote:

The all use CVTs which only last about 100k miles, then $5k to replace.


WRONG WRONG WRONG. Yes some hybrids, and even gas only vehicles use CVT's, but there are MANY MANY MANY hybrids that do NOT have a CVT, and virtually all pure EV's use direct drive.

And I know many people with vehicles with CVTs that have gone well beyond 100K with no problems. In fact none have had problems with the CVT.

Now personally I don't like the characteristics of a CVT, but that's another issue.

My hybrid uses a 7 speed wet clutch DCT, fantastic transmission, especially when coupled to an electric motor in front of it.

GET your facts straight and don't spread misinformation.


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EV hate is silly. They suck for towing and they suck for long distance road trips, and both of those are things my family does reasonably regularly. But for a secondary around town vehicle I think an EV would be great for us. As a bonus, where I live we have cheap electricity that's among the most renewable of any state.

My wife has taken her Pilot on maybe 1 or 2 300+ mile trips in the last 5 years. It would be no problem at all for her to take another vehicle and leave me with the around town EV on those few occasions. On the more frequent occasions that the whole family goes for a long trip (or towing) we'd just take the diesel truck.

The fact that EVs are poor towing and long trip vehicles doesn't make them useless.


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