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Open Roads Forum  >  Towing  > Upgrade to 5th wheel Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  |  Oldest first Newest first  Page of 6   Next Taxman2436 • View posts Sturbridge, MA Full Member Joined: 04/29/2020 View Profile Offline Posted: 09/17/22 07:47am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator I have a 2019 Ford F-250 6.7l diesel. I’m looking at a Grand Design 320MKS but want to make sure my truck can haul it. According to the brochure the trailer is 10,721 UVW. According to Fords towing guide the truck will tow 14,800 lbs. I’m thinking that if it will I may need to beef up the rear suspension. Also, I’m not sure how “UVW” relates to the actual weight I will be towing. Also looking for hitch recommendations. Thanks for any help provided. Lenny Taxman2436 Sturbridge, MA 2022 Ford F350 6.7L Diesel 2023 Grand Design Reflection 320 MKS Lwiddis • View posts Southern California :( Senior Member Joined: 08/12/2016 View Profile Good Sam RV Club Member Offline Posted: 09/17/22 07:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator What’s your estimate of the loaded pin weight? With all your stuff and passengers in the truck are you within payload? “Beefing up” levels the truck but doesn’t increase payload. Winnebago 2101DS TT & 2022 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71, WindyNation 300 watt solar-Lossigy 200 AH Lithium battery. Prefer boondocking, USFS, COE, BLM, NPS, TVA, state camps. Bicyclist. 14 yr. Army -11B40 then 11A - (MOS 1542 & 1560) IOBC & IOAC grad BB_TX • View posts McKinney, Texas Senior Member Joined: 04/04/2005 View Profile Offline Posted: 09/17/22 08:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator You need to look at your truck's payload capacity. And the unloaded pin weight plus about 20% -22% to get an approximate loaded pin weight. That pin weight vs your payload capacity is going to be your limiting factor. Lwiddis • View posts Southern California :( Senior Member Joined: 08/12/2016 View Profile Good Sam RV Club Member Offline Posted: 09/17/22 08:13am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator Twenty percent of the max gross weight of that 5er is 2800 pounds of pin weight. TOO much for a 3/4 ton truck IMO when you add passengers and stuff in the truck. Cummins12V98 • View posts on the road Senior Member Joined: 06/03/2012 View Profile Offline Posted: 09/17/22 08:35am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator What is your trucks RAWR? What is your RAW ready to tow. The difference is what your pin weight can be. Multiply that number by 5 and that will get how heavy a loaded 5er can be. Reality is I would multiply by 4 as many 5er's have up to 25% pin weight. 2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's 37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast" "HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600 2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable 2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD Taxman2436 • View posts Sturbridge, MA Full Member Joined: 04/29/2020 View Profile Offline Posted: 09/17/22 09:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator OK, so the rear GAWR is 6340 and the RAW is 2840. So, it appears the 12000 for the loaded trailer would be OK, but would I be pushing to the limit? 2112 • View posts Texas Senior Member Joined: 07/16/2011 View Profile Offline Posted: 09/17/22 09:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator I calculate it this way: 6340-2840=3500lbs. This is your rear axle limit 3500-200=3300lbs. Subtract 200lbs for the hitch 12000 X 0.25=3000. Guesstimated pin weight if the 12,000lb trailer is loaded to the max 3300-3000=300. You have 300lb margin on your rear axle. 2011 Ford F-150 EcoBoost SuperCab Max Tow, 2084# Payload, 11,300# Tow, Timbrens, PullRite SuperGlide 2700 15K 2013 KZ Durango 2857 MFL • View posts Midwest Senior Member Joined: 11/28/2012 View Profile Good Sam RV Club Member Offline Posted: 09/17/22 09:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator Your truck will work for that trailer. Your springs will likely be your weakest link, but still within spec. If your truck seems to squat more than you like, you can add aftermarket support, to restore to level. If your truck has the FW prep kit (puck system) a B&W 3300 is a great hitch choice for your truck. Jerry Grit dog • View posts Black Diamond, WA Senior Member Joined: 05/06/2013 View Profile Offline Posted: 09/17/22 10:08am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator Zero capacity or towing concerns with that setup. Essentially a perfectly matched combo on all accounts. 2016 Ram 2500, MotorOps.ca EFIlive tuned, 5” turbo back, 6" lift on 37s 2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold. Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold Lwiddis • View posts Southern California :( Senior Member Joined: 08/12/2016 View Profile Good Sam RV Club Member Offline Posted: 09/17/22 10:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator Ok with a 300 pound margin on the TV rear axle with a 12000 pound 5er? Not me! Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  |  Oldest first Newest first  Page of 6   Next Open Roads Forum  >  Towing  > Upgrade to 5th wheel

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