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Stolen Ford 350

monkey44
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When we think we're safe buying from a dealer ...

https://www.wmtw.com/article/stolen-truck-florida-couple-says-dealership-sold-to-them/41292574?fbclid=IwAR258uMcbACCkx0Zl8HWmBzdRLTo2UWrkRgDT7j_ZWHHoFrbb_KFdvFE6Zs
Monkey44
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blt2ski
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Been a few classic rigs stolen 30-50+ yrs ago. Chang hands privately, then a particular state does a major search by vin, low and behold, that 60' Vette or equal is/was stolen.

Hence one good reason to buy new per say....
But like ALL things great and small, there are negatives too.


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monkey44
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Well, we do not know the entire story, or the Ford's history ... I thought it prudent to share it, so the guys looking at re-sale trucks, even at a dealer, would be careful and check everything you can before you purchase.

I'm betting this is not the only one nationwide -- probably happens more times than we can guess. Possibly even, the scam is never even discovered on some, and the buyer never knows it's stolen and enjoys the truck for years. It almost seems a fluke this one was discovered, but he went to a different service shop, and they found the discrepancy.
Monkey44
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2008 Lance 845
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RetiredRealtorR
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1. Carfax is not, repeat NOT infallible. I was in the business for 30 years, so I know firsthand.

2. Auctions typically do more due diligence than a dealer would taking a trade-in. Over the years, I've seen auctions reject scores of vehicles due to tarnished histories.
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monkey44
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This dealer/owner has several new and used car dealerships in Central Florida, and offers Carfax on the used vehicles it sells. Have no clue how stolen vehicles get past that search. It does state the truck came from Colorado, so maybe an auction. It does not state how it was acquired.
Monkey44
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2008 Lance 845
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mkirsch
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gbopp wrote:
A car dealer screwed someone? I can't believe it, they're always so honest. :B


Selling a stolen vehicle is a new form of low for a mainstream dealer. All the brand-name dealers around here only sell "carfax certified" used vehicles and give you access to the carfax reports for anything they sell.

I'm sure the shady fly-by-night types do it with regularity.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

Grit_dog
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Nomad III
Tvov wrote:
I have never heard of doing a "VIN search" on a new vehicle at a dealership. Buying used from a dealership also wouldn't occur to me to VIN search the vehicle.

Is this common at dealerships?


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monkey44
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If its' new, I'd never think to do VIN search, If it's used, I'd do a search to see if it's ever been in a major accident, or check whatever maintenance records are available.

We've not bought a used vehicle very often. When we have, we've rejected several due to negative VIN records thru the companies that provide it, like Carfax, etc.
Monkey44
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2008 Lance 845
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Tvov
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I have never heard of doing a "VIN search" on a new vehicle at a dealership. Buying used from a dealership also wouldn't occur to me to VIN search the vehicle.

Is this common at dealerships?
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monkey44
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Thx BYU ...
Monkey44
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2008 Lance 845
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monkey44 wrote:


Thx for clicky - I try it, but it never seems to exhibit as a clicky ๐Ÿ˜ž


Above where you type your message, select the link button.
Put the URL in the top box, and what you want the link to say in your post in the bottom box, click finished.

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Learjet
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NamMedevac 70 wrote:
Typical American Greed. Not surprising. I have always done a very thorough VIN search plus other history search including visual inspection of VIN plate and door plate of all my trucks and trailers because of dishonest dealers just about everywhere. Made sure numbers on paper work matched actual VIN and door plate. Trust Us We are Your Good Neighbors, yada yada yada.


You think greed only exist in America?

A Statement like that sounds like you don't like this country?
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RetiredRealtorR
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Did I just miss it, or did the write up not address exactly how the dealership came about getting the truck? Trade-in? Auction? Direct buy from the previous owner? In any case, the due diligence must have fallen totally through the cracks. You can bet there's a LOT more to the story than we will ever know.

And BTW, "daddy always said you can,t trust a sales person." goes down as the most ignorant response to a post today. You can rest assured the salesperson had nothing to do with the acquisition of the vehicle.
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gbopp
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A car dealer screwed someone? I can't believe it, they're always so honest. :B

Grit_dog
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This is weirdโ€ฆ.
Are these things yโ€™all actually think and care about?
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