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monkey44

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Posted: 09/26/22 10:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

One more thing that auto buyers will pay for that they don't want or need. A test app to reveal an impared driver will become required, and those that are not affected by it will have to pay for it anyway. And, I also agree, those affected will find a way to defeat it anyway. Those that are not affected will pay for it and never use it.

Too many combinations now on trucks that only make sense to some drivers but not others. If you want one thing, you need to buy the 'package' with other things in it you don't want or use. Not only does that raise the initial cost, it raises the tax and fees also in many states.

It's no wonder folks launch an LLC in the states that offer it before buying a new vehicle. What once was nickels and dimes became quarters and dollars to the buyers.


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So in the link is this statement: "Meanwhile, a pickup truck — occupied by a driver and seven passengers, ranging in age from 6 to 15 years old — was traveling north on State Route 33."

A pickup truck with 8 people in it? Perhaps the problem here is operator error? I'm not up on all aspects of pick-up trucks, but I thought their maximum capacity is either 5 or 6, depending upon the front seat. How do you get 7 passengers, and several of those were most likely supposed to be in booster seats at the younger end of the age range. Nowhere in the NTSA article is it mentioned that the pickup truck was overloaded and that the operator/driver of the pickup was negligent in ways, as well.

On a related link was this: "Although the postcrash toxicology tests that were conducted at the request of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) detected evidence of cannabis use, the NTSB was unable to determine whether the effects of cannabis use contributed to the driver’s impairment." So...drunk AND high! The driver was a moron!

Plus, excessive speed was the real cause of this accident, and that could've happened with a perfectly sober, albeit stupid, driver. Geeze!

As someone else pointed out, we need an "idiot detector" before these foolish things are added to our vehicles. It's bad enough that now when we get new tires, we have to have the air pressure sensors checked/replaced or new batteries added. All an additional expense. And for what? Because a certain segment of society chose to drive their high center-of-gravity SUVs and not check their tire pressure regularly. THEIR FAULT, not ours. Yet we ALL pay for it now.

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Posted: 09/26/22 03:08pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Actually I think this is because of pressure from the insurance industry. They hate paying out claims.


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fj12ryder wrote:

FWIW, even the Egyptians had beer 3,000 years ago. Everyone has a vice, some it's pride. [emoticon]


oh I agree.. As I said I've tapped a few kegs for parties.
I don't drink cause I don't like it. Not a moral. or religious or any other reason other than I don't like it.

Also do not like Lima beans.


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In general, alcohol has a very bad effect on a person in different ways. That is why I gave up alcohol altogether. My husband developed ED due to alcohol abuse. Now he is being treated and taking Generic Cialis to improve the situation. So, as long as I don't have any problems with alcohol, I need to give it up

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Pbutler97 wrote:

Here we go again possibly. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you consider the cost and 11000 deaths as a percentage of the total population is @ 0.0032835820895522%.

From what I see every day driving @ 2200 miles a week, a system that prevents cell phone use would make a lot of sense.

Spending your money for you

Fwiw in Japan all big trucks have breathalizer inside and driver has to be sober before the engine starts.

Not sure of the cost,but what is the price of life?

Cell phones use while driving is just as bad as here,almost every driver uses it,some even have TV on dash.
Some drivers even let their kids stand on seats unbuckled.


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Cell phone addiction...
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Ladies drag their children along. They'll stop in the middle of this aisle. And in total oblivion relate their day's activities moment by moment. And yes it happens south of the border too. I ride with a friend to shop. I see him become unaware of green traffic lights.
I disliked the taste of American brew and settled on a Yucatecan beer by the name of León Negro. It's unavailable here, so that settles that.
Every one of my same age school buddies drank. They are long dead.

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Posted: 11/24/22 03:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Like all other things it's all about the money. Try as they might the IRS can not figure out how to tax dead people. It's a battle between them and the alcohol and drug sellers.


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Posted: 11/24/22 04:42pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Infringement of rights?

The right of others to drive drunk or stoned?

Your right to not get killed by someone drunk or stoned?

I look at cell phone use the same way.

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Posted: 11/25/22 06:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wondering if you could just blast air into the device with something like a turkey baster? Air is air right?


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