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hotjag1

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Posted: 12/29/22 12:14pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

2oldman wrote:

SuperBus wrote:

By the way, who is still using a 110 VAC drill?
Really. All my yard tools are battery.. leaf blower, lawn mower (110v battery!), hedge trimmer. I would never buy another gas powered tool.


I'm thinking he meant a corded drill that plugs into a wall socket.


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Posted: 12/29/22 12:20pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Why doesn't this exist?
Take a small diesel like the ecoboost, pair it with a front wheel drive unit and put it in a heavy duty truck. Then put electric motors on the rear wheels. You can have regenerative braking and alternator charging for the batteries. When pulling a fifth-wheel you need torque when starting and going up hills. This is when the electric would work with the ecoboost The rest of the time the ecoboost could easily keep the heavy load moving down the road.
And when you are not towing, either the ecoboost or the batteries could be used.
Once we can get the R & D department in Washington to meet in the middle instead of all or none. There are a lot of solutions.


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relaxin wrote:

So most governments have set a time line when the end of the internal combustion engine Must occur,(Moderator comment: Political comments removed).
So then what?
Does anyone honestly think there will be an affordable Electric truck that can pull 10 to 15 thousand pound for 250 or more miles on a single charge?
Will we have to outfit our trailers with batteries to provide a boost for the truck doing the pulling? Or will the average middle class joe have to go back to tent camping?
Will there be aux battery packs that we can drop into the truck bed and tie down and plug in for extra mileage, and then take back out so we are not toting around the unnecessary weight when not towing

What's your thoughts on the future changes coming?


Not an expert but those limits at least presently don’t affect 3/4 ton or one ton trucks. Do people pull 10,000 to 15,000 pound fifth wheels with half tons?

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fj12ryder wrote:

My thought is that the goalposts will simply be moved.
This

It's an initiative to spawn new technologies and improve existing.

Nothing is cast in stone.


Exactly. If you read the actual declarations, etc, they all have a caveat like "if the technology exists".

They are meant to encourage companies to make changes and advances in technology NOT to piss off a bunch of RVers.

And it IS working. Electric vehicles are improving all the time. Companies are working on batteries that can handle longer trips and bigger loads. And companies built on short drives (pizza deliveries, etc) are replacing their ICE vehicles with electric vehicles.

It's all a work in progress. It isn't a "you will not do this or we will cut you down", it is a "if you can do this, then do it. If you can't, then wait until technology catches up".


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hotjag1 wrote:

I'm thinking he meant a corded drill that plugs into a wall socket.
There's something in my response that indicates I didn't know that?

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The ultimate solution?? Just put a wind powered turbine generator on the roof. Presto! Continuous free charging while you drive. And when you park, park headed into the wind. Again, free charging while parked. [emoticon] [emoticon]

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Posted: 12/29/22 01:31pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

relaxin wrote:

Does anyone honestly think there will be an affordable Electric truck that can pull 10 to 15 thousand pound for 250 or more miles on a single charge?
Many say the new diesels are not affordable now. Some are $100k+

Otherwise: https://www.tesla.com/semi Maybe opt for the smaller 300 mile range. This may not be the solution for you right now as much as it shows what is possible. They are coming.

Or just keep driving what you have or buy something used.


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2oldman wrote:

JRscooby wrote:

There is no viable alternative to ICE NOW
If you're talking about pulling a 5th wheel, no. If you're talking about a short daily commute and you can charge at home, they're perfect.


I'm talking about how technology has always evolved.
If a EV had been available for near the price I paid when I bought my last car, I would of bought one (For a couple years before I had been commuting most days on electric bicycle) Now I don't plan to drive/live past the life of the vehicles I have now.

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Posted: 12/29/22 01:57pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

SuperBus wrote:

By the way, who is still using a 110 VAC drill?
My small bench top drill press is 120V. As is my hedge trimmer which I'm now tripping over it's cord laying on the floor - going to use it any day now...


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toedtoes wrote:

Companies are working on batteries that can handle longer trips and bigger loads.
Can't wait to see a Tesla semi-tractor. Better yet, be behind one on a grade.

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