Desert Captain
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wapiticountry wrote:Desert Captain wrote:Ok I'll play... If you are going to have rules and obviously you need to, enforce them consistently for the benefit of one and all. I appreciate it when upon checking in being given a copy, usually on the back of the CG map and yes guys I actually read them every time.
Every CG/RV park is a little different and if after reading their rules you cannot comply just put your rig in gear and get on down the road. The rules are not subject to debate and I would hope they apply to everyone, not just us.
On the earlier discussion about IQ...
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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Enforcing rules has to be done with discretion. It is never black and white. For example we have quiet hours, not silence hours. Barking dogs are a no go, but we don’t kick someone out for a dog’s random bark. Deal with the general public enough and you will inevitably have conflicts regarding rules and policies. It is impossible to settle then all to the satisfaction of everyone involved.
I have to disagree... especially when it comes to speeding in the CG but other chronic offenses should always be dealt with in a timely manner as well. No need to be a jerk just politely enforce them. Your other nonproblematic guests are entitled to know and expect what the rules provide for.
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bukhrn wrote:"The wildlife is wild. Your children cannot pet the elk, ride the bison, or take a bear cub home, so don’t try".
Violation, or disregarding of this single Rule, Suggestion, Idea, or what ever, is probably the reason for most deaths or injuries involving wild animals in our National Parks and Forests.
There are generally, signs around most of these parks, to the effect of, Caution, Stay X # of feet/yards away from animals, I have never seen a sign saying this is a petting zoo, yet people are seen routinely treating them as if they were.
Some of these animals can kill you, some will eat you after they kill you. ![[emoticon]](https://forums.goodsamclub.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/rolleyes.gif "rolleyes")
Nah, just an efficient means of natural selection without any of the human concerns about liability or pain and suffering or litigation....
Problem is, not enough of the animals actually kill the idiot who isn't smarter than an ungulate or reptile and for some reason, then other humans expend their energy to help the idiot.
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JimR 1 wrote:Well this seems like a good place to ask a question I have been wanting to ask:
Is a tent on top of a vehicle, say a jeep or pickup or you choice, a TENT or a VEHICLE (camper}??
If a tent then can the tent drive across the campground to drive up onto the newly made and framed tent site, or park in the parking area for the camp site?
JimR
We call them silly....but this may come as a surprise, the tent is a tent and the vehicle, wait for it.......
is a vehicle!
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JimR 1
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wapiticountry wrote:JimR 1 wrote:Well this seems like a good place to ask a question I have been wanting to ask:
Is a tent on top of a vehicle, say a jeep or pickup or you choice, a TENT or a VEHICLE (camper}??
If a tent then can the tent drive across the campground to drive up onto the newly made and framed tent site, or park in the parking area for the camp site?
JimR
Not a tent, it’s a vehicle. It doesn’t have an RVIA certification so many parks can go to the fine print in their rules and not accept the rig if it looks like Jed and Granny pieced it together after a wild night of checkers for money down in Bugtussle.
I agree I just put this here because I had it happen to me. My solution was for the tent to be removed from the vehicle and put that on the tent pad and park the vehicle on the vehicle pad. He decided to park the vehicle with tent on the pad.
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Desert Captain wrote:wapiticountry wrote:Desert Captain wrote:Ok I'll play... If you are going to have rules and obviously you need to, enforce them consistently for the benefit of one and all. I appreciate it when upon checking in being given a copy, usually on the back of the CG map and yes guys I actually read them every time.
Every CG/RV park is a little different and if after reading their rules you cannot comply just put your rig in gear and get on down the road. The rules are not subject to debate and I would hope they apply to everyone, not just us.
On the earlier discussion about IQ...
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
Enforcing rules has to be done with discretion. It is never black and white. For example we have quiet hours, not silence hours. Barking dogs are a no go, but we don’t kick someone out for a dog’s random bark. Deal with the general public enough and you will inevitably have conflicts regarding rules and policies. It is impossible to settle then all to the satisfaction of everyone involved.
I have to disagree... especially when it comes to speeding in the CG but other chronic offenses should always be dealt with in a timely manner as well. No need to be a jerk just politely enforce them. Your other nonproblematic guests are entitled to know and expect what the rules provide for.
Define chronic. Is it a dog barks once, once every few hours, for three minutes when the owners leave them in the RV? And how do you politely enforce a rule? A park is pretty much limited to letting them stay or kicking them out. I don’t think turning off the power or disconnecting the cable for an hour effectively giving the RV a time out would be practical, polite or non confrontational. Warnings only go so far and that is a very short distance in parks where the average guest stays for only a few days. Fact is, unless there are truly gross violations of rules, rule enforcement relies primarily on the good character of the violator.
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"Define chronic. Is it a dog barks once, once every few hours, for three minutes when the owners leave them in the RV? And how do you politely enforce a rule? A park is pretty much limited to letting them stay or kicking them out. I don’t think turning off the power or disconnecting the cable for an hour effectively giving the RV a time out would be practical, polite or non confrontational. Warnings only go so far and that is a very short distance in parks where the average guest stays for only a few days. Fact is, unless there are truly gross violations of rules, rule enforcement relies primarily on the good character of the violator. "
As noted chronic speeding is a biggie as it is liable to get someone injured or worse. The CG's that enforce zero tolerance don't have to do so more than a couple of times and the problem goes away one way or the other. Dogs invading other sites with bad internet {don't get me started on those retractable 30' leashes} or no leash any all and of course the folks that never clean up after their pooches.
Relying on the "good character"of the violator presumes/assumes they have some which sadly is often not the case.
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Desert Captain wrote:Dogs invading other sites with bad internet…
Wut?
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haste maker wrote:Park owners are in the people pleasing business...if not pleasing the customer is a problem...they maybe in the wrong line of work... Need to re-read item #1
If the owner makes a camper unhappy.... it is because the owner does not need that troublesome customer.
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Here's one for the park owners. Not controlling who occupies any particular site has been problematic a few times for me. Someone with a pop-up camper takes a site that can fit a big rig when there are other sites that will accommodate the pop-up. Yep, they pay the same price for the site as a big rig does, but if it's the only site that big rig can fit in and they can't then they go down the road and you lose revenue. I've noticed more parks are controlling sites by size of rig and that to me is a good thing.
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ken56 wrote:Here's one for the park owners. Not controlling who occupies any particular site has been problematic a few times for me. Someone with a pop-up camper takes a site that can fit a big rig when there are other sites that will accommodate the pop-up. Yep, they pay the same price for the site as a big rig does, but if it's the only site that big rig can fit in and they can't then they go down the road and you lose revenue. I've noticed more parks are controlling sites by size of rig and that to me is a good thing.
In cases where you can pick your site, I would say the person with the pop up made the choice before you. It may have a better view, whatever, but the point is, first come, first serve. A lot of CG's have site lengths etc and that's critical for larger rigs, but just because someone has a smaller rig it shouldn't be a tool to discriminate them from getting a site they like better if it's available. Is the CG supposed to hold that site in hopes that a bigger rig might come in if their crystal ball is on the fritz? Bigger rigs have a smaller pool of sites to pick from and as a result need better/earlier planning. But if a site is available, it's available.
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