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ronharmless wrote:

Hum!! That’s the opposite of what I noticed last summer. I was camping and thought somehow I got misplaced into the big fiver’s section. It felt like I was camping in a teeny tiny TT compared to the rest of the sites (and mines 28 ft). One was even being pulled by a class 8 tractor. Now makes me wonder what the real statistics are about the size of the campers being sold. This seat of the pants blathering is probably very subjective and possibly not very objective. Real data backed up with links would be very useful.


Yah for sure. I think a lot depends where you are and where you travel. There would be very few spots that would handle a 28 foot rig in many of the provincial and forestry parks we stayed in over the summer.

Now snowbird parks, whole different ball game of course. We snowbirded for years in a 40 foot diesel pusher.

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Not of great interest to Class A, B and C Rvers.
I am still waiting to get a report on using a Rivian as a toad. If it works I might just trade....


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Reisender wrote:

ronharmless wrote:

Hum!! That’s the opposite of what I noticed last summer. I was camping and thought somehow I got misplaced into the big fiver’s section. It felt like I was camping in a teeny tiny TT compared to the rest of the sites (and mines 28 ft). One was even being pulled by a class 8 tractor. Now makes me wonder what the real statistics are about the size of the campers being sold. This seat of the pants blathering is probably very subjective and possibly not very objective. Real data backed up with links would be very useful.


Yah for sure. I think a lot depends where you are and where you travel. There would be very few spots that would handle a 28 foot rig in many of the provincial and forestry parks we stayed in over the summer.

Now snowbird parks, whole different ball game of course. We snowbirded for years in a 40 foot diesel pusher.


Aside from it not mattering what sort of useless stats about how many RVs of different sizes are sold or in use, you both have good points.
The term “There’s an @ss for every seat.” comes to mind.
Although geographically and politically, even though there are ALOT of big RVs of every sort out here in the left part of the country, I believe the concentration of smaller units, canned ham trailers and such is probably greater than other areas.

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Well they are as fast as they are ugly!
I’d love to have a ripper 11 second EV. But even though it smoked a TRX, if I had to drop $100k on a pickup truck for some silly reason it would be a TRX Redeye or the baddest new diesel 1 ton in my favorite color! Not an ugly midsize toaster oven.


Back in the day, when I worked for Baker Poppa in Ewe-stun, I was the first employee to get a Prius, the then closest thing to an EV....so I've got nothing against EV's per se, but for this kind of price tag a quick look through the local fora and boards indicates: Could probably buy 2 relatively late model diesel (certainly gas) pickups, not new but close; Could buy an airworthy C180, although would need at least cosmetic work; could buy a moderately upgraded PA-12; could cover 65% of the cost of a rough C182; could make a 65% down payment on a new tricked out 24' ocean boat or could buy a low-time late model 24 or 26' in the same make in nice condition ready to go; or could buy 3 new sno-gos and a smaller Kubota tractor.

The $$ just doesn't make this sort of vehicle attractive, never mind the dearth of charging stations up here in the GWN.


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Grit dog wrote:

Well they are as fast as they are ugly!
I’d love to have a ripper 11 second EV. But even though it smoked a TRX, if I had to drop $100k on a pickup truck for some silly reason it would be a TRX Redeye or the baddest new diesel 1 ton in my favorite color! Not an ugly midsize toaster oven.


Back in the day, when I worked for Baker Poppa in Ewe-stun, I was the first employee to get a Prius, the then closest thing to an EV....so I've got nothing against EV's per se, but for this kind of price tag a quick look through the local fora and boards indicates: Could probably buy 2 relatively late model diesel (certainly gas) pickups, not new but close; Could buy an airworthy C180, although would need at least cosmetic work; could buy a moderately upgraded PA-12; could cover 65% of the cost of a rough C182; could make a 65% down payment on a new tricked out 24' ocean boat or could buy a low-time late model 24 or 26' in the same make in nice condition ready to go; or could buy 3 new sno-gos and a smaller Kubota tractor.

The $$ just doesn't make this sort of vehicle attractive, never mind the dearth of charging stations up here in the GWN.


Lol! Spot on! And even better perspective on what I was trying to say.
Or to put it another way, these things are like 60% status symbol, 30% claiming you’re doing your part to save the earth, 5% transportation, 4% investment (if you play your cards right) and 1% towing!

PS in your scenario, I’m not a pilot, I have enough trucks so my option would be 1 new sno go and a huge downpayment on something 26’ long shiny aluminum with 2 - 250 Yamahas on the back!

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, never mind the dearth of charging stations up here in the GWN.

https://www.plugshare.com/


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PA12DRVR wrote:

, never mind the dearth of charging stations up here in the GWN.

https://www.plugshare.com/


Sorry. Not an American. What is GWN.

Thanks.

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Reisender wrote:

time2roll wrote:

PA12DRVR wrote:

, never mind the dearth of charging stations up here in the GWN.

https://www.plugshare.com/


Sorry. Not an American. What is GWN.

Thanks.


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wnjj wrote:

Reisender wrote:

time2roll wrote:

PA12DRVR wrote:

, never mind the dearth of charging stations up here in the GWN.

https://www.plugshare.com/


Sorry. Not an American. What is GWN.

Thanks.


Probably this.


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...and there are (based on rough quick look) about 30 charging stations in Alaska. Just as a for-instance, there are 3 locations (depending how one counts "location" and there are more than 3 stations) between Los Anchorage and Valdez. Anchorage lists 8 charging stations but once outside of the core area: One of the other charging locations is at a local chain grocery store and has been blocked off twice in the past 3 weeks...presumably due to cold, although at the then -15 F, it wasn't that cold. Two of the other locations include a private campground (closed for the winter) and a public (State of Alaska DNR) campground and conference facility, also closed for the winter. There are probably others, but I would not choose to take a 180 mile drive (Anchorage to Glennallen) without the ability to "charge up" nor the additional 120 miles to valdez with no ability to "charge up" on that leg until reaching Valdez.

Again, if I were to spend $100,000 or so on a summer-only vehicle, I'd probably be looking at something different. FWIW, there's an identifiable segment of Los Anchorage drivers that do the commute in their Teslas....although strangely enough over the past two weeks (when we had a bit of below zero weather), the Teslas weren't as noticeable.

...and I use GWN to refer to Alaska, although perhaps misappropriating the name from Canada.

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