FishOnOne
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Grit dog wrote:Man, Fish fired a good shot over the bow with the tow rating thread and the Ram Mafia retorts with this ballistic missle! Game on!
(Poor Chevy guys get left in the reserves again….maybe we should all buy Chebbys!)
Got to duck and cover around here. ![[emoticon]](https://forums.goodsamclub.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
BTW... Pretty sure the Hemi's and Chevy's are still having lifter problems, especially the ones that support the cylinder deactivation.
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Huntindog
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I am shocked that this is an issue now. Roller lifters have been in use a long time. Why all of a sudden is it they are failing?
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deltabravo
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Grit dog wrote:maybe we should all buy Chebbys!)
They are too ugly. (the 2020-2023 models)
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mkirsch
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:Interesting that it's cheaper to replace the whole engine rather than repair it.
Not surprising or interesting at all to me. Machine shops don't work for free. Labor costs add up quick, and quickly exceed what it costs to build the engine in the factory, ESPECIALLY considering that they're only paying their own cost for the engine, vs. full retail for the machine shop's work.
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Lantley
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It's good to know gas engines have problems too. I thought diesel emissions were the only issue within the heavy duty pick up sector.
I thought buying a gasser eliminated any chance of future problems. Guess not.
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fj12ryder
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We have a single yewtoob video and now Ford engines are falling out of the sky. You guys do realize these people get paid by the view. No news, no drama, no views, no money.
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JRscooby
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mkirsch wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:Interesting that it's cheaper to replace the whole engine rather than repair it.
Not surprising or interesting at all to me. Machine shops don't work for free. Labor costs add up quick, and quickly exceed what it costs to build the engine in the factory, ESPECIALLY considering that they're only paying their own cost for the engine, vs. full retail for the machine shop's work.
1968, 455 Olds with 200 miles on it. Valve spring keeper came off. Bent valve, and broken piston. GM paid to replace the engine, then factory rep forced me to use sludge hammer to bust crank, block, heads, basically change the engine I hoped to put in GMC pickup into scrap metal.
When asked why, to be sure only had to pay for once. That was for sure error by factory worker. If can't be sure why failure, more tests need to be made.
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Lantley
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fj12ryder wrote:We have a single yewtoob video and now Ford engines are falling out of the sky. You guys do realize these people get paid by the view. No news, no drama, no views, no money.
It appears from the video this is not the first engine with this issue.
As long as its not my truck its no big deal.
But if this were my truck is would be a HUGE deal.
As far as drama and views, it's the world we live in.
Video only attracts attention when it's a worthwhile issue.
Don't shoot the messenger.
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rhagfo
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fj12ryder wrote:We have a single yewtoob video and now Ford engines are falling out of the sky. You guys do realize these people get paid by the view. No news, no drama, no views, no money.
I more or less ask the question earlier as to how big of issue is this?
Is poor engineering and are materials not strong enough, or is a bad batch of cams or lifters? What is failing first the lifter or the cam, one bad surface will damage the surface it rides on.
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Grit dog
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Danger Don wrote:Grit dog wrote:Man, Fish fired a good shot over the bow with the tow rating thread and the Ram Mafia retorts with this ballistic missle! Game on!
(Poor Chevy guys get left in the reserves again….maybe we should all buy Chebbys!)
Not really, that GM 6.6 gas motor is fast gaining a reputation for choking a lifter or dropping a cam, and it appears the cold start piston slap knock that plagued the 2000ish LM7 5300's has been reincarnated in the 6.6.
This thread is great reading, as is some of the responses to your post in the EV alternative for light/medium duty trucks thread regarding " GM just sunk a boatload of $ into the next gen V8 engine"
To some the responders I offer the following links. I might suggest searching for "Top Tier Management" or "Engineering" LOL
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Dang man! I had a 2020 5.3 Chebby that puked a lifter in each bank a month apart. And it was in the shop for 3 weeks for the first side! Lol.
Piston slap, I’m ok with. Loose motors are healthy motors. BTW a little dose of 20W50 quiets em right down! Lol
Edit and an 08 or 09 that ate valvetrain components. But a 2016 that never got opened up in the 140k miles I had it or was around it after I passed it down.
Guess they’re all the best of all junk depending on what day of the week.
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