mkirsch
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Grit dog wrote:Being in BC you have more additional oversight and enforcement to deal with than basically anywhere else in North America.
And I doubt that it is as bad as some make it out to be. I’ve made a couple trips thru BC, tip to tail grossly “overloaded” with a pudgy TC and no one batted an eye, including RCMP when we were chatting at a gas station in Northern BC. And at that time I had a 6-7klb (est) trailer hooked up as well.
...because all RCMP officers are implanted with "eyeball scales" when they are sworn in, and can tell exactly how much you weigh by looking at your rig.
Just like in the States, you'll only get nailed at a weigh/inspection station. Also just like in the States, they have separate officers patrolling the roads enforcing traffic law, and officers dedicated to enforcing commercial vehicle law. You were talking to traffic cops. Unless something was dragging, your taillight was out, or it was otherwise obvious that you were driving a dangerous vehicle, they could care less.
Plus being non-commercial, if it's legal where you came from, it's "legal" there. Either through legal reciprocity, or "tourist" reciprocity.
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mkirsch wrote:...because all RCMP officers are implanted with "eyeball scales" when they are sworn in, and can tell exactly how much you weigh by looking at your rig.
From what I've read here, they only weigh if it looks off. That is, if. it is low in back compared to front. That's pretty obvious. We've all seen trucks obviously overloaded. "eyeball scales" not required. ![[emoticon]](https://forums.goodsamclub.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/grin.gif "grin")
That being said, airbags, timbrens, and stableloads all can fix the level issue.
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OP, There is some good advice here. If you buy a truck with the correct capacity in the first place, you will not need to add any upgrades. Also, if your just at the edge of your trucks capacity it may not be a very fun drive. IE white knuckle the whole drive. As I get older, I want a truck that can handle quite a bit more weight than I will be carrying. I then find that the drive and the trip are very relaxing and fun.
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StirCrazy
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Grit dog wrote:StirCrazy wrote:Grit dog wrote:The challenge with going with a 1 ton srw truck, if buying used, is the lack of availability compared to 3/4 tons.
The good news is (aside from 2014-up Ram 2500, don’t get one of them for a TC) 3/4 ton trucks are virtually identical in build and real world capacity as 1 ton srw trucks, save for greater rear spring capacity. And both generally require similar modifications to the suspension for most hard side TCs.
So if you’re in the used srw pickup market, you’ll have a much better selection of trucks including 3/4 tons. Like orders of magnitude better. And suspension upgrades are relatively cheap in the big picture and you’ll likely need them with either model.
I wish doing suspension upgrades was an easy legal way to increase your capacity but unfortunatly it isn't. only make it carry its capacity better....
I’m not certain anyone said it “legally” changed the gvw.
Being in BC you have more additional oversight and enforcement to deal with than basically anywhere else in North America.
And I doubt that it is as bad as some make it out to be. I’ve made a couple trips thru BC, tip to tail grossly “overloaded” with a pudgy TC and no one batted an eye, including RCMP when we were chatting at a gas station in Northern BC. And at that time I had a 6-7klb (est) trailer hooked up as well.
No I don't think anyone did, I was just saying its to bad you cant raise your GVRW by doing aproved upgrades haha.
ya its mostly a urban myth. to my knowlage there has only been one ticket handed out to a overloaded rv and he was pretty much dragging his bumper. if you sit fairly level and drive good chances are you will will never be pulled over as a rv. on a side not there is a CVS crack down on rigs right now in the interior around my area so if you are pushing the limit and look like it, right now might not be the best time to drive through the interior of BC.. might make that 1 in to 3 or 4 haha
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StirCrazy
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JIMNLIN wrote:someone said wrote: a 3/4T truck has a max GVWR of 10,000LBS and the addition of even a 'medium' hardside camper can easily push the weight of the truck+camper+gear to 11-12K LBS fairly quickly and easily.
Newer 2500 GM trucks come with up to 11550 gvwr and more important bigger 6600 rawr for carrying in the bed payloads.
Ford F250 comes up to 10800 gvwr and 6340 rawr.
No need for a one ton drw for a small truck camper that size.
Now if you underestimated the camper weight and its over 3800-3900 lbs then I would go with the drw truck.
probem is you have to go to the scales and see how much thoes axels are already loaded up to know your true payload. my truck has a 11500 heavy payload option and 7000 on the rear axel, with me the wife and a full take of gas the rear axel is 3460 lbs, -230lbs for the tailgate and 5th wheel hitch which I had in when I scaled it leaves me 3770lbs but my payload says 4600. I personaly woudnt have an issue going to a 4000lb loaded camer as some of the weight will go to the front axel and I don't tow anything, but idealy I would be looking to stay about 3500 or less as I do go on some rought roads to get to places.
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StirCrazy
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mkirsch wrote:
Plus being non-commercial, if it's legal where you came from, it's "legal" there. Either through legal reciprocity, or "tourist" reciprocity.
not nessasarly, there are several things you can do in other provences or even ifn the US where if you are doing it here you will be ordered to disconect and get towed. a good example is tandom towing, its fine in Alberta but if you drive in to BC you will be required to unhook the last one and make two trips to get one of them back to alberta. weights are the same if you are overloaded your overloaded, just th chances of a rv getting stopped to be weighed is slim.
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time2roll wrote:Is there no gross weight for the TC? I would always plan to be at gross weight. Packing light is wishful thinking.
And what is the derated truck capacity for using a TC?
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mkirsch wrote:Grit dog wrote:Being in BC you have more additional oversight and enforcement to deal with than basically anywhere else in North America.
And I doubt that it is as bad as some make it out to be. I’ve made a couple trips thru BC, tip to tail grossly “overloaded” with a pudgy TC and no one batted an eye, including RCMP when we were chatting at a gas station in Northern BC. And at that time I had a 6-7klb (est) trailer hooked up as well.
...because all RCMP officers are implanted with "eyeball scales" when they are sworn in, and can tell exactly how much you weigh by looking at your rig.
Just like in the States, you'll only get nailed at a weigh/inspection station. Also just like in the States, they have separate officers patrolling the roads enforcing traffic law, and officers dedicated to enforcing commercial vehicle law. You were talking to traffic cops. Unless something was dragging, your taillight was out, or it was otherwise obvious that you were driving a dangerous vehicle, they could care less.
Plus being non-commercial, if it's legal where you came from, it's "legal" there. Either through legal reciprocity, or "tourist" reciprocity.
I think it’s because the truck was de-badged…lol.
It’s a 3500…..whatchu talkin bout Willis?
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StirCrazy wrote:JIMNLIN wrote:someone said wrote: a 3/4T truck has a max GVWR of 10,000LBS and the addition of even a 'medium' hardside camper can easily push the weight of the truck+camper+gear to 11-12K LBS fairly quickly and easily.
Newer 2500 GM trucks come with up to 11550 gvwr and more important bigger 6600 rawr for carrying in the bed payloads.
Ford F250 comes up to 10800 gvwr and 6340 rawr.
No need for a one ton drw for a small truck camper that size.
Now if you underestimated the camper weight and its over 3800-3900 lbs then I would go with the drw truck.
probem is you have to go to the scales and see how much thoes axels are already loaded up to know your true payload. my truck has a 11500 heavy payload option and 7000 on the rear axel, with me the wife and a full take of gas the rear axel is 3460 lbs, -230lbs for the tailgate and 5th wheel hitch which I had in when I scaled it leaves me 3770lbs but my payload says 4600. I personaly woudnt have an issue going to a 4000lb loaded camer as some of the weight will go to the front axel and I don't tow anything, but idealy I would be looking to stay about 3500 or less as I do go on some rought roads to get to places.
What you’re saying is no different than any model or class of truck. However virtually every HD crew cab pickup is about 3500lbs giver take a couple hundred each way empty, sitting on a scale. So that part is real easy to figure out even if the scale is in the next county!
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Dont get a 3/4 ton ram with coil springs. I haul a 1800 pound dry 8 ft camper in my 2017 ram 3/4, It doesnt hardly squat me at all but I had to add air bags for the side to side roll. If i had leaf springs It would be perfect.
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