LMHS
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Weekenders vs Fulltimers
Fulltime. Current park allows pets to be left inside rigs. Not barkers. Not left out all day and/or overnight. If the park you prefer does not allow pets to be left alone, then change your preferences.
Previous park made a rule that didn't allow dogs to be put in a kennel crate outside, unattended. That was because some worthless weekenders took off for almost a week and left their two dogs in a kennel crate covered with a black cover... in NM summer. No one knew. One dog died, one barely survived. The people were arrested when they finally showed back up.
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Lantley
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@ Toedtoes you raise some good points and I agree its probably not good advice to tell a newbie its OK to leave your dog everyone does it.
But ultimately my point is if you leave a behaved dog it won't be an issue.
If you leave a barker you may and should encounter the long arm of the CG. I'm all for enforcing the rule if the dog disturbs the peace, but I also believe in letting sleeping dogs lie if the dog is behaved.
Much in the way if you are a loud obnoxious drunk alcohol rules should be enforced.
However if you are a quiet law abiding camper with red plastic cup your RV should not be randomly searched for booze.
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I don't disagree. I'm sure a LOT of campgrounds happily look the other way, or don't even realize. And I'm sure there are many dogs who quietly sleep the day away.
I just think it's important for folks to understand WHY these rules are in place, the risks, however slight, if they disregard the rules, and that just because Joe Blow jumps off a cliff doesn't make it a good idea for you to do the same.
Similarly, if someone posted asking if it was OK to drink alcohol in an dry campground, I would say "skip the alcohol" or pick another campground. If they choose to ignore the rule, fine that's on them. But they won't be doing based on me saying "it's no big deal".
Heck, you never know if the campground had a huge issue with alcohol just the week before and decides to be hardnosed about it as a result. And that person to whom you said "it's no big deal" ends up having their five generation family reumion ruined because they figured it was OK to have a quiet glass of wine before bed and the campground staff saw it and kicked them out.
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LMHS wrote:Weekenders vs Fulltimers
Fulltime. Current park allows pets to be left inside rigs. Not barkers. Not left out all day and/or overnight. If the park you prefer does not allow pets to be left alone, then change your preferences.
Previous park made a rule that didn't allow dogs to be put in a kennel crate outside, unattended. That was because some worthless weekenders took off for almost a week and left their two dogs in a kennel crate covered with a black cover... in NM summer. No one knew. One dog died, one barely survived. The people were arrested when they finally showed back up.
It's not a weekender vs fulltimer issue. There are folks of both camping styles following the rules and ignoring the rules.
Not every weekender is a partier looking to get high and cause problems. Not every fulltimer is a quiet retired couple who hide quietly in their RV except for the four hours they leave to eat out and shop/sightsee.
Your story is why it can be dangerous even leaving the dog inside an RV unattended. What if they had left the dogs in a trailer and took off. The result could very easily have been the same.
And what if you only intended to leave the dogs for an hour or two, but were in a car accident and unconscious in a hospital for a week? No one would know or expect your dogs were in the RV starving.
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Lantley
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Some of the doomsday scenario you guys bring up are a bit much. Yes people do suddenly become ill and leave pets abandoned but this is not common.
People have heart attacks while driving on the highway with and without pets in the car but we don't prohibit driving.
Emergencies will always occur but they will have to be dealt with on a case by case basis.
I do believe some unattended pet rules are in place simply to limit CG liability
when things go wrong, such as pets being abandoned for weeks, be it intentionally or do to unforeseen illness.
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To answer the question (no moral judgement included)-yes, people leave their dogs alone at campgrounds all the time ("no dogs alone" signs or not).
Our experience-we have taken two dogs camping (we had one dog at a time). Our first dog was fine being alone. Our second dog was a bit anxious. We have a Class C,and did not want the dogs going near the steering wheel, gas pedals, or large front window, so we put a baby gate across the front. We also shut the windows, no matter what the weather, because we did not want to risk either dog panicking and going through a window screen. We shut the curtains and left plenty of fresh water and a treat. We gave doggy cbd to our second dog, to help with the anxiety.
We would also give our dog a loooong walk before leaving in the hope that this would cause her to sleep. To check and see if our dogs barked when we were away-we drove away from the campsite, parked, and walked back to the campsite, sat outside and read for an hour. We never heard a peep. We would also ask neighbors (if any were around) whether they heard barking or not.
There is surveillance equipment that you can use-the problem is that I think you need a reliable internet source and/or unlimited data.
We were careful not to be gone too long. Five hours was our limit.
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I think the OP got the answer to their question, from a number of posters, with common sense. I agree with some of them, as to the rule being posted, for whatever is needed, like alcohol not allowed, no parking on grass, quiet times. It takes the argument out of the picture, when there IS A PROBLEM.
Like many issues on this forum, some will argue relentlessly, needing the last word, so they feel most important. It is easy to pick out the radicals, that just want to be right.
Dogs are a big part of many families, and more has been done to accommodate these fur family members in recent years. Many motels, even high end places allow your dog in your room now. Some charge extra, no problem, but to compete with other CGs, or hotels, to keep your business they are doing it.
True in an emergency, such as a fire, or natural disaster, a dog could die in a camper, in your S&B house, or a tree fall on them. Bad things do happen, people die, pets die, a sad thing for sure, but a fact of life.
A responsible pet owner, is a good camping neighbor. The same ones that ignore their dog barking, also let their kids run loose in every ones campsite, and the ones drinking/partying outside, even after quiet time.
The OP asking about their new family member, is an indication to me, that they are going to be a responsible dog owner, capable of getting much enjoyment from their new best friend.
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solismaris wrote:We are now a dog owner and would consider bringing her on next camping trip. Question for all: is it considered acceptable to leave dog in trailer while we are away?
Windows and vents will be open, curtains drawn, propane will be turned off. Where I travel no AC is needed. Dog is not a barker.
I asked at one place and they said no unattended pets. Of course they did. Maybe better to not ask and do it surreptitiously?
Surely campers with dogs are still able to get away for a restaurant, museum, other no-pets tourist attractions?
When we bring our dog with us, we plan the camping trip with her in mind. Plan meals at the camper if needed, plan trips where dogs are welcomed, etc.
If we have a trip involving places where dogs are not allowed, then we make arrangements for the dog to be taken care of at home.
We have been to many campgrounds over the years where we were next to or near the camper that had the dog that "never barks". The dog barks...
I have seen many dog owners who I swear simply are so used to their dog barking that they don't hear it anymore. Or, and this is usually more annoying, the dog owner screaming at their dog to shut up - usually involving many inventive words.
Dogs and camping always makes for interesting threads!
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We raised our two dogs from the puppy stage to full grown, camping and travelling in various vehicles. We also use cameras with sound so we can hear if the dogs bark and also speak to them. We had a temp and humidity monitor as well. The camera was tied into our inverter so if there was a power failure we would know. The Verizon mi-fi was battery back up which was connected to the camera and temp stik. Over the thousands of miles we have travelled and the number of cg's we have stayed we never had an issue with the dogs or the cg mgmt.
I would not leave the windows open, rather cut on the a/c or just the fan if it is cool enough and leave a radio on. Leaving the window open will almost be sure to get them barking at something. Bottom line know your dog, prepare and always monitor.
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StirCrazy
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most of the rules are based on a dog barking and disturbing others while you gone, so they make a blanket rule. we leave our lab alone but we always have AC when we do (5th wheel) and he just sleeps. I know a lot of people think there dog doesnt bark but when left alone they actualy do, and this is what you have to find out also, as if they do then you will have a angry campground host waiting for you when you get back.
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