Thermoguy
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Huntindog wrote:Thermoguy wrote:The amount of EV haters and EV illiterates on this site amazes me. What I don't understand is if you have an RV and you boondock, you have an EV. You have to determine how much battery power you have, how long you can go on that battery, and what to do when the battery gets low. You have all the same issues as any EV vehicle has, range anxiety, charging concerns, etc. How do you go through your day with all those concerns. I know, you use a generator that burns gas. Without one you can't boondock!! hmmm... Only lots of people on here find ways to use things like solar and other power sources.
How is driving an EV any different? Hopefully everyone understands our government is doing every thing it can to change how many charging stations are available and where. Not that you will find one off grid, but you might have one within a few miles of that dirt road. If you have a 200 mile range and you are leaving pavement, you probably won't run out of electricity unless you just aren't paying attention, but as someone said, then you would probably run out of gas as you don't pay attention to that gauge also. I know, you lose lots of range when you hook up to a trailer. There are only 2 EV trucks on the market today, there are 2 more coming, what's coming after that. What will you think when range with a trailer is 600 miles and you have more torque than any diesel truck out there... you might change your mind?
Also, EV really does not mean Electric Vehicle, it means any vehicle that doesn't burn fossil fuels as its main source of power. That opens a lot of doors in the next 10 years.
I don't have one. If I had an extra 100K I would be looking at the new Sierra with 400 mile range. It wouldn't tow my RV, but that will change in the near future. take the basic math you learned in high school and do the math on just what it would take to recharge with a rv solar system or generator. then get back to me.
I never suggested you would charge an EV with solar or a generator, I suggested that if you boondock with an RV then you are already familiar with DC powered life and you know how to calculate what you need to get where you are going or how long you will be there.
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Huntindog
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pianotuna wrote:Do any of us take a highway trip without filling up first?
My day use of an RV would be supported by level 1 charging.
My preferred charge level around town would be 50% and I'd recharge when I reached 40%. I would certainly not exceed 85%.
If, on the other hand I were going 205 miles, I'd fully charge, and do a lunch stop at 100 miles. i cannot fathom a stop at only 100 miles we often go 7-800 miles a day.
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Huntindog wrote:i cannot fathom a stop at only 100 miles we often go 7-800 miles a day. I cannot fathom going 7-800 miles a day.
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EV doesn't mean Electric Vehicle but means anything that doesn't use fossil fuel? Really? New definition?
From my best friend, Google
EV: Electric Vehicle - Any vehicle that uses electric motors to move. FCEV: Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle - Uses hydrogen fuel cells to produce energy for the vehicle. HEV: Hybrid Electric Vehicle - Any vehicle that uses a combination of an internal combustion engine and battery pack as its primary power source.
The "E" in all these variations mean Electric.
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Not a single person has yet to explain to me what problems EV's are actually solving. They are creating new and different problems many of which contribute to the very climate and ecological issues they were touted to solve. A claim by the way that was all a ploy simply to garner votes and pad the pockets of the few using taxpayer dollars.
And the silly claim that if you have an RV you already own an EV is complete grasping at straws. My RV won't move an inch under "EV power" Sure many of the items on an RV use batteries. So does every other ICE vehicle for the past 5 decades. There are also many systems that don't use batteries, like the AC, Microwave an not the least of which are the actual engine and generator - well they do use a battery to start, so there's that.
Back to the OP, I am pretty sure that ICE's will remain as long as there is demand. Once more EV's hit the road, electricity demand will go up and so will prices for electric. Simultaneously fossil fuel demand will decrease and so will it's price. Raw materials for batteries will become harder to get and EV prices will start to climb as a result along with more ecological impact for mining - rinse and repeat. At that point, along with another political shift and the understanding that we aren't really "saving the planet" some real head scratching will start to happen.
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way2roll wrote:Not a single person has yet to explain to me what problems EV's are actually solving. Automobile and truck tailpipe emissions of co2.
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2oldman wrote:Huntindog wrote:i cannot fathom a stop at only 100 miles we often go 7-800 miles a day. I cannot fathom going 7-800 miles a day.
Then you sound like the perfect EV customer!
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2oldman wrote:Huntindog wrote:i cannot fathom a stop at only 100 miles we often go 7-800 miles a day. I cannot fathom going 7-800 miles a day.
In very few parts of the country can a professional run over 600/day without tripping interest of Fed.
But may accept somebody that drives a desk 40 hours a week is just fine spending 13-14 hours alert enough to drive.
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Huntindog wrote:pianotuna wrote:Do any of us take a highway trip without filling up first?
My day use of an RV would be supported by level 1 charging.
My preferred charge level around town would be 50% and I'd recharge when I reached 40%. I would certainly not exceed 85%.
If, on the other hand I were going 205 miles, I'd fully charge, and do a lunch stop at 100 miles. i cannot fathom a stop at only 100 miles we often go 7-800 miles a day.
I’m not sure how to read this. Are you under the impression that EV’s charge every 100 miles?
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2oldman wrote:way2roll wrote:Not a single person has yet to explain to me what problems EV's are actually solving. Automobile and truck tailpipe emissions of co2.
Yeah it's always "tailpipe emissions". That was the original earth saving mantra. Unfortunately that's only a small percentage of the actual impact. You think the machines that mine raw materials have decent tailpipe emissions? How about the ships that transport it, or the trucks that deliver them? How about the caustic and hazardous waste, ecological impact from mining, continued dependency on foreign nations and the lack of their eco and humanitarian friendly operations? Nevermind the continued emissions and impact from producing electricity to run EV's. Ev's aren't saving the planet and reciting "tailpipe emissions" means you haven't bothered to do any real research on the topic. You have to look deeper. You'd think people really interested in saving the planet would do the homework to ensure that their fancy purchase is having the actual benefit they have been lead to believe.
But snippet "talpipe emissions" and bury heads in sand to justify the continued digging in pockets to support them. Just don't look behind the curtain so you can keep feeling good about it.
Of course the ever popular responses when presented with these facts are "we never really cared about it being green, they're just cool".
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