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Posted: 03/10/23 08:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Interesting read.

https://sustainablebiz.ca/volvos-prevost-developing-electric-coaches-in-ev-push

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That'll keep the days short!

A 250 mile advertised range, most manufacturers say run between 20-80% for best battery life so basically a 150 mile range. So our 1 day drive to the races now will turn into a 4 day trip.

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Bruce Brown wrote:


A 250 mile advertised range, most manufacturers say run between 20-80% for best battery life so basically a 150 mile range. So our 1 day drive to the races now will turn into a 4 day trip.

It looks like these Prevost electrics are intended for mass transit, not cross country, like Nova Bus.


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Although someone will turn a few into RVs, those are aimed at the mast transit market.

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Mass transit buses are one application that really makes sense for electric vehicles- Metro Transit has been using electric buses in downtown Seattle for longer than most of us have been alive. Of course, these are trolley buses that get their power from overhead lines, not battery power.

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Clemson Area Transit (CAT) in South Carolina used some electric busses that are "Wireless" operationally.. there are charging stations (one is at the Seneca END OF LINE and I assume one at the other end) where the bus pulls in for a quick charge before it starts the next half of it's run."

OH and after doing considerable research (Clemson University is a good school) They set the fare on the busses to $0.00 to encourage ridership..

Seems that the more folks ride the bus.. the less crash their cars. and the reduced policing costs pays for the bus service. NEAT.

For more info.. Google them.


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Article isn't clear. The picture is a tour bus but the writeup implies transit bus.

Transit can work because with regenerative braking and rarely exceeding 40mph, efficiency is far better than a brick cruising at a steady 70mph.

No, savings from policing accidents is no where close to enough to justify free rides. Where you can justify is if you can avoid road widening and similar costs...but diesel busses do just as well at this.


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valhalla360 wrote:

Article isn't clear. The picture is a tour bus but the writeup implies transit bus.

Transit can work because with regenerative braking and rarely exceeding 40mph, efficiency is far better than a brick cruising at a steady 70mph.

No, savings from policing accidents is no where close to enough to justify free rides. Where you can justify is if you can avoid road widening and similar costs...but diesel busses do just as well at this.


Ok. But busses with tail pipes are being banned from more and more small towns and cities in Europe. People just don’t want tail pipes in their towns. We have see this first hand the hard way. [emoticon]. . There is a market for tour busses without tail pipes.

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Reisender wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Article isn't clear. The picture is a tour bus but the writeup implies transit bus.

Transit can work because with regenerative braking and rarely exceeding 40mph, efficiency is far better than a brick cruising at a steady 70mph.

No, savings from policing accidents is no where close to enough to justify free rides. Where you can justify is if you can avoid road widening and similar costs...but diesel busses do just as well at this.


Ok. But busses with tail pipes are being banned from more and more small towns and cities in Europe. People just don’t want tail pipes in their towns. We have see this first hand the hard way. [emoticon]. . There is a market for tour busses without tail pipes.


The reason the electric bus is better than a diesel bus is that a bus stops a lot. An electric bus uses no energy when it is stopped, a diesel bus keeps running. In addition, diesel buses have to be taken out of service to fuel up, an electric bus does not. What they are doing is using inductive charging to charge the bus and keep it running. A typical bus route a bus has multiple locations where it has a planned stop for 15-30 minutes or maybe more, that is where they put inductive charge pads where the bus stops, this is where the bus recharges for the next part of the route. It is proving to be a great use of EV technology.

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Thermoguy wrote:

The reason the electric bus is better than a diesel bus is that a bus stops a lot. An electric bus uses no energy when it is stopped, a diesel bus keeps running. In addition, diesel buses have to be taken out of service to fuel up, an electric bus does not. What they are doing is using inductive charging to charge the bus and keep it running. A typical bus route a bus has multiple locations where it has a planned stop for 15-30 minutes or maybe more, that is where they put inductive charge pads where the bus stops, this is where the bus recharges for the next part of the route. It is proving to be a great use of EV technology.


Do these inductive charge pads exist, or is this just a concept?

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