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โApr-09-2023 04:34 AM
groundhogy wrote:
Lead-acid (standard) lasts 4-5 yrs.
Where its hot like Arizona, they last 2-4 yrs
โApr-08-2023 07:45 PM
โMar-30-2023 09:15 AM
swimmer_spe wrote:JaxDad wrote:StirCrazy wrote:
ahh that's where you Americans have a huge advantage. We cannot just drive a unit onto government land unless it is designated for "camping" and in that case it is called a recreation area or some other name and there are rules and fees of some sort... Sometimes they are free. Otherwise, you're limited to provincial or private campgrounds.
Maybe Ontario is different.
Ontario is *very* different, all public land, Federal or Provincial land is open to camping unless specifically prohibited. This is usually just environmental lands, wildlife preserves and that sort of thing. It is also open to off-roading, in fact multi-day ATV / SxS trips and camping on public land is a very popular pastime here.
Hence why my friend brings a generator. We go hunting for a week and camp at a lakefront site that would rival most provincial, state and federal/national park.
โMar-30-2023 09:14 AM
JaxDad wrote:StirCrazy wrote:
ahh that's where you Americans have a huge advantage. We cannot just drive a unit onto government land unless it is designated for "camping" and in that case it is called a recreation area or some other name and there are rules and fees of some sort... Sometimes they are free. Otherwise, you're limited to provincial or private campgrounds.
Maybe Ontario is different.
Ontario is *very* different, all public land, Federal or Provincial land is open to camping unless specifically prohibited. This is usually just environmental lands, wildlife preserves and that sort of thing. It is also open to off-roading, in fact multi-day ATV / SxS trips and camping on public land is a very popular pastime here.
โMar-30-2023 09:07 AM
Grit dog wrote:StirCrazy wrote:ewarnerusa wrote:
If he's boondocking the way I think of boondocking, he won't be in a campground with rules but rather a dispersed spot with only the neighbors he traveled with. I do realize there are campgrounds without hookups so valid points on generator hours/rules.
ahh that's where you Americans have a huge advantage. We cannot just drive a unit onto government land unless it is designated for "camping" and in that case it is called a recreation area or some other name and there are rules and fees of some sort... Sometimes they are free. Otherwise, you're limited to provincial or private campgrounds. Maybe Ontario is different. I do know some private campground where you can run your genny during daylight hours but those are becoming extinct out here anyways and I am thankful for that. To me a genny is for emergency use as there's nothing more anoying than hearing a genny fire up when you're trying to enjoy the fire and drinks. and yes, even the quiet ones carry the sound a long way in the woods.
This can vary a bit with different areas I just know about BC and Alberta. There are places you can go in BC for free and on government lands, but you are limited to hiking and tent camping. there are ways to camp for free in places but it's a gamble if you're going to get woken up and told to move along and its definitely not light a fire and start drinking type of camping haha
Oops , I guess we were criminalsโฆboondocked in BC for a few nights on our way to Alaskaโฆ.
Didnโt know that Trudeau didnโt allow itโฆbut only thing to kick us out of camp was our alarm clocks and 1 grizzly bear.
โMar-30-2023 08:12 AM
JaxDad wrote:StirCrazy wrote:
ahh that's where you Americans have a huge advantage. We cannot just drive a unit onto government land unless it is designated for "camping" and in that case it is called a recreation area or some other name and there are rules and fees of some sort... Sometimes they are free. Otherwise, you're limited to provincial or private campgrounds.
Maybe Ontario is different.
Ontario is *very* different, all public land, Federal or Provincial land is open to camping unless specifically prohibited. This is usually just environmental lands, wildlife preserves and that sort of thing. It is also open to off-roading, in fact multi-day ATV / SxS trips and camping on public land is a very popular pastime here.
โMar-30-2023 04:39 AM
StirCrazy wrote:
ahh that's where you Americans have a huge advantage. We cannot just drive a unit onto government land unless it is designated for "camping" and in that case it is called a recreation area or some other name and there are rules and fees of some sort... Sometimes they are free. Otherwise, you're limited to provincial or private campgrounds.
Maybe Ontario is different.
โMar-29-2023 06:03 PM
JimK-NY wrote:StirCrazy wrote:
so only one maybe two if we stretch it, of those situations would I consider boon docking or even camping for that matter.
There are a few spots in BC, but none that I would give up on a public forum.
This thread was about camping without hook ups, specifically without electricity. I would not want to argue about what is boon docking and what is stealth camping, or for that matter even try to define "camping". Back in the day, camping had something to do with a tent.
My point is simple. There are plenty of places to stay even in Western Canada without being in an RV park or improved park with electricity. Personally I prefer my camping or stays if you prefer to be outside of those areas.
I don't think I gave away any special spots on a public forum. The free overflow in Jasper and the hidden away spot in Banff are probably long gone. Even the parking lot immediately down the stairs from the Athabasca lodge area may not be available.
I don't think I gave away any special spots, but it hardly matters. Online information is now readily available without being on the ground and scouting out places. Out of curiosity, I looked at an online source for free camping in your area of Kamloops. In addition to the Costco, rest stop and Flying J, there are quite a few locations on lake shores and remote areas that seem like they might be attractive. Over a dozen locations are listed within about 50km of Kamloops.
BTW, in the US we don't say "government" lands. We call them public lands which reflects the idea that they belong to the people.
โMar-29-2023 05:58 PM
StirCrazy wrote:
so only one maybe two if we stretch it, of those situations would I consider boon docking or even camping for that matter.
There are a few spots in BC, but none that I would give up on a public forum.
โMar-29-2023 08:57 AM
โMar-29-2023 08:55 AM
StirCrazy wrote:ewarnerusa wrote:
If he's boondocking the way I think of boondocking, he won't be in a campground with rules but rather a dispersed spot with only the neighbors he traveled with. I do realize there are campgrounds without hookups so valid points on generator hours/rules.
ahh that's where you Americans have a huge advantage. We cannot just drive a unit onto government land unless it is designated for "camping" and in that case it is called a recreation area or some other name and there are rules and fees of some sort... Sometimes they are free. Otherwise, you're limited to provincial or private campgrounds. Maybe Ontario is different. I do know some private campground where you can run your genny during daylight hours but those are becoming extinct out here anyways and I am thankful for that. To me a genny is for emergency use as there's nothing more anoying than hearing a genny fire up when you're trying to enjoy the fire and drinks. and yes, even the quiet ones carry the sound a long way in the woods.
This can vary a bit with different areas I just know about BC and Alberta. There are places you can go in BC for free and on government lands, but you are limited to hiking and tent camping. there are ways to camp for free in places but it's a gamble if you're going to get woken up and told to move along and its definitely not light a fire and start drinking type of camping haha
โMar-29-2023 08:45 AM
โMar-29-2023 08:42 AM
JimK-NY wrote:StirCrazy wrote:
ahh that's where you Americans have a huge advantage. We cannot just drive a unit onto government land unless it is designated for "camping" and in that case it is called a recreation area or some other name and there are rules and fees of some sort... Sometimes they are free. Otherwise, you're limited to provincial or private campgrounds.
It has been a few years since I made my one and only RV camping trip across Canada. I still remember some of the places I stayed in the Western Provinces.
Stayed on a city street in Winnipeg while visiting a distant relative.
Stayed at rest stop near Moosmin, Saskatchewan. It was a very nice spot with the only good view we had of the northern lights.
In Banff, we stayed several nights in an area within the Park that I can barely describe as a combination of a construction site and a migrant camp. No water, no facilities but safe and convenient.
At the Athabasca glacier we gave up our official camping spot to a young couple and child who came in too late to get a spot. We stayed in the parking lot a couple of nights. It was a great opportunity to take night photos.
At Jasper we stayed in an outstandingly beautiful area designed as overflow camping. No fees, no facilities but with access to the nearby dump station at the actual campground. After a few nights a ranger came by and told us the since the main campground was only partially full the overflow was going to close. We stayed a couple of nights in town across from a church and within a block of a bakery with outstanding bread and donuts. Great smells in the morning.
At your town, Kamloops, we arrived late, stayed in the Costco parking lot and left early the next morning for the Cascades.
I am sure there were other places I have forgotten, but as a quick summary I would guess our stays in the western provinces were outside of designated camping areas at least three quarters of the time.