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Idle speed control acutator info

udidwht
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This is in reference to the earlier older topic here:

https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/26389052.cfm

As for the 'Idle speed control actuator' it was not installed in all models of GM. I believe only in the truck models such as the P-30 chassis. It is the vacuum can on drivers side of TBI attached to throttle cable. It has a vacuum line running to the 'EGR valve control solenoid' which is on the passenger side of the TBI just forward of it attached to a bracket.

See pic of mine for aforementioned items: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ow3nt7k4hf4gimd/20180512_232309%5B1%5D.jpg?dl=0

Idle Speed/Throttle Actuator - Mechanical: Description and Operation

Purpose: The idle speed control actuator system assists the idle air control system in controlling the idle speed, primarily at cold temperatures.

Operation: The idle speed control actuator is a vacuum operated device which opens the throttle slightly (2 to 3 degrees of angle) to increase the cold engine idle speed, to improve the mixing of the air and fuel, and to allow lower warmed up engine idle speeds. The idle speed control actuator is controlled by the EGR valve control solenoid, which is controlled by the power control module. To increase the idle speed, the EGR valve solenoid is turned "OFF," and no vacuum is routed to the idle speed control actuator, allowing it to open the throttle slightly. To decrease the idle speed, the solenoid is turned "ON" and vacuum is routed through the solenoid to the idle speed control actuator, allowing the throttle to fully close.

In conjunction with the idle speed control actuator system, the idle air control continuously monitors and controls the engine idle speed to the desired idle speed. A Tech 1 scan tool will read the control module commands to the idle speed control actuator system.

The throttle actuator provides another function. The larger the TB, the more the bores expand as the engine gets hot. The 92+ 454 equipped truck ran much hotter than the older square body version. And GM had switched to a heated intake instead of the small heater plate, which was much more effective at heating the TB and keeping it warm after the engine was shut off. Well, a larger bore means the throttle plate must be closed more to keep idle speed low. No problem, right? Just reduce minimum air by turning the throttle stop and you're done. But if you do that when the engine's hot, the next day when you go to press on the accelerator while the engine's cold, the throttle plate is stuck. Not so good. The throttle actuator allowed a way to reduce idle speed when hot yet keep the throttle far enough open when the engine was off so a cooling TB wouldn't seize the plate.

The following is the correct OBD-1 code chart for the early 90-95 years: https://www.troublecodes.net/gm/#codesobd1
1994 Fleetwood Southwind Storm
P-30 chassis 7.4L 454 TBI 58,301 miles and counting....(as of 06/08/19)
VIN# 1GBJP37N4R3314754
Flight System Generator man 360 (PM me)
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udidwht
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As for the part number on this item...

GM 17084953?

And the item in question is #16 in the following diagram...

https://lt-truck-gmc.7zap.com/en/g15+g1500/49295-1994/0-0-1904162379/0-1623891437-0-0/
1994 Fleetwood Southwind Storm
P-30 chassis 7.4L 454 TBI 58,301 miles and counting....(as of 06/08/19)
VIN# 1GBJP37N4R3314754
Flight System Generator man 360 (PM me)

udidwht
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Manuals for some year TBI models can be had here:

https://www.gmt400.com/threads/88-98-service-manuals.43575/
1994 Fleetwood Southwind Storm
P-30 chassis 7.4L 454 TBI 58,301 miles and counting....(as of 06/08/19)
VIN# 1GBJP37N4R3314754
Flight System Generator man 360 (PM me)

udidwht
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As for the adjustment of the 'Idle speed control actuator' (Vacuum can) aka throttle kicker...

Idle Speed Control Actuator Adjustment

Procedure: (from manual)

Before adjusting ISC actuator you must first check the minimum idle speed to be within specifications. Refer to SPECIFICATIONS/IDLE SPEED. (ISC actuator must have vacuum applied so that it is not contacting the throttle lever.) See image VIEW A.

Remove vacuum hose on ISC actuator on warm engine.
Adjust ISC actuated idle speed to 1300 +/- 50 rpm. See image VIEW B.
Install vacuum hose.

In the even the vacuum can is leaking and not holding vacuum and you're unable to source another. You'll need to get at the 'Idle adjustment screw' that is covered by GM on the front side of the TBI. Turn it open roughly 1 turn. This will open the throttle blade slightly. The IAC will/should make up the difference.

As for the adjustment of the 'Idle speed control actuator' (Vacuum can) aka throttle kicker...

Idle Speed Control Actuator Adjustment

Procedure: (from manual)

Before adjusting ISC actuator you must first check the minimum idle speed to be within specifications. Refer to SPECIFICATIONS/IDLE SPEED. (ISC actuator must have vacuum applied so that it is not contacting the throttle lever.) See image VIEW A.

Remove vacuum hose on ISC actuator on warm engine.
Adjust ISC actuated idle speed to 1300 +/- 50 rpm. See image VIEW B.
Install vacuum hose.

In the event the vacuum can is leaking and not holding vacuum and you're unable to source another. You'll need to get at the 'Idle adjustment screw' that is covered by GM on the front side of the TBI. Turn it open roughly 1 turn. This will open the throttle blade slightly. The IAC will/should make up the difference.

Prior to doing this you must make certain that the min idle speed is set first.
1994 Fleetwood Southwind Storm
P-30 chassis 7.4L 454 TBI 58,301 miles and counting....(as of 06/08/19)
VIN# 1GBJP37N4R3314754
Flight System Generator man 360 (PM me)