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Thanks guys for all the input! I am just extremely particular about my vehicles, and hate the thought of needing to carry extra oil at all times!!
Tough decisions on if I trade in, (and fortunately will get every dollar back that I got in it) and get another GM hoping this one was out of the ordinary, or try out a Ford...
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Grit dog wrote: Whoa, sorry for being a month behind on GMs next years models….lol.
Well good, GM finally pulled their heads out of their posteriors.
Now Ram is the only one left running 100% outdated transmissions in some of their HD models (aka all the diesels).
Actually more like being about 5 months behind, GM made the announcement early in Dec 22 and launched the new websites then....lol.
Perhaps too busy then stirring up the shitpot at the time on these boards....lol?
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jabres wrote: Thanks guys for all the input! I am just extremely particular about my vehicles, and hate the thought of needing to carry extra oil at all times!!
Tough decisions on if I trade in, (and fortunately will get every dollar back that I got in it) and get another GM hoping this one was out of the ordinary, or try out a Ford... I don't know how you are doing the math but, trading in is NEVER the best financial move. There can be good logical reasons for doing a trade in....But finances isn't one of them.
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Grit dog wrote: Whoa, sorry for being a month behind on GMs next years models….lol.
Well good, GM finally pulled their heads out of their posteriors.
Now Ram is the only one left running 100% outdated transmissions in some of their HD models (aka all the diesels).
A lot of people like the 6-sp. It is a known entity, it is paired well with the 6.6L gasser and it is dialed in very well as to where it delivers a smooth power curve and it does it effortlessly. I test drove 10-speeds multiple times (Ford 7.3L gasser) and I went and I test drove the new 10-sp with the 6.6L Chevy. The trannies were constantly shifting and it annoyed the **** out of me. The 6-speed GM trannies are known entities, have been around for years, they are super cheap to replace when they go out. 'Nuff for me. Not every new thing is a good thing for everyone (how many people have left the diesel world because of CP4 pumps?).
I can even see the point of the 10-sp if you offer different gear ratios but GM is stuck on the 3.73 only whereas Ford offers everything from 3.55 up to 4.30. So what exactly to you get with a 10-sp on the GM gassers? Maybe slightly better gas mileage (although people are reporting pretty similar numbers with the 6-sp) and maybe better towing up the steepest grades. But then I always think to myself - people have been towing up steep grades since 50+ years ago with much less powerful trucks and did it just fine - whether I get to the top of the hill in 15 minutes or 18 minutes - who cares? Me personally, I am after simplicity and longevity, not the shiny new thing...
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jabres wrote: Thanks guys for all the input! I am just extremely particular about my vehicles, and hate the thought of needing to carry extra oil at all times!!
Tough decisions on if I trade in, (and fortunately will get every dollar back that I got in it) and get another GM hoping this one was out of the ordinary, or try out a Ford...
People who own the Godzillas seem to be happy with them. It is a nice engine, top of the offering in the gas world right now. Ford even introduced a 6.8L gas engine in the XL trims - so you might want to check that out. I am happy with the 6.6L GM/Chevy gasser, does what I want and does it without a fuss. I am not brand loyal, test drove all three for months and joined all the Facebook groups, followed them to find out all the issues the engines/trannies were having etc. I came from the diesel world (never going back)- the new gassers are potent and do their jobs well. If you think about it - people rave about the 7.3L powerstroke from 20 years ago - well the gassers have double the HP and the same torque but with computer controlled transmissions and very smooth power delivery curves, same level of simplicity (comparably) and cheapness of maintenance. Win-win.
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CWilson wrote: Grit dog wrote: Whoa, sorry for being a month behind on GMs next years models….lol.
Well good, GM finally pulled their heads out of their posteriors.
Now Ram is the only one left running 100% outdated transmissions in some of their HD models (aka all the diesels).
Actually more like being about 5 months behind, GM made the announcement early in Dec 22 and launched the new websites then....lol.
Perhaps too busy then stirring up the shitpot at the time on these boards....lol?
Lol, nah, you may be mistaking me for someone who watches every YooToob video, actually caring about what the next latest update is….
And no one is raving about the (stock) power of the old 7.3 Powerstroke. At least not in the last 15 years or more. That is a poor comparison by which to make a point.
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If you decide to purchase a new truck I would give the Ford 7.3 a hard look. Reason why is Ford stuck with port injection instead of direct injection like on the Chevy 6.6 engine.
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frankwp wrote: If an 8.1 isn't burning oil, then it isn't running ![smile [emoticon]](https://forums.goodsamclub.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif) Mine takes a liter every 3000 or 4000 Km
the 2001 8.1 engine we had used a 1/2 qt to 1500 miles when towing a 15K fifthwheel. Not an issue for me. chevman
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Grit dog wrote: CWilson wrote: Grit dog wrote: Whoa, sorry for being a month behind on GMs next years models….lol.
Well good, GM finally pulled their heads out of their posteriors.
Now Ram is the only one left running 100% outdated transmissions in some of their HD models (aka all the diesels).
Actually more like being about 5 months behind, GM made the announcement early in Dec 22 and launched the new websites then....lol.
Perhaps too busy then stirring up the shitpot at the time on these boards....lol?
Lol, nah, you may be mistaking me for someone who watches every YooToob video, actually caring about what the next latest update is….
And no one is raving about the (stock) power of the old 7.3 Powerstroke. At least not in the last 15 years or more. That is a poor comparison by which to make a point.
I certainly hope not ,bought new ,and drove for nearly 16 years a early 99 7.3 Powerstroke . Did a great job on any thing around 10K or under ,after that it fell on its face .
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cummins2014 wrote: Grit dog wrote: CWilson wrote: Grit dog wrote: Whoa, sorry for being a month behind on GMs next years models….lol.
Well good, GM finally pulled their heads out of their posteriors.
Now Ram is the only one left running 100% outdated transmissions in some of their HD models (aka all the diesels).
Actually more like being about 5 months behind, GM made the announcement early in Dec 22 and launched the new websites then....lol.
Perhaps too busy then stirring up the shitpot at the time on these boards....lol?
Lol, nah, you may be mistaking me for someone who watches every YooToob video, actually caring about what the next latest update is….
And no one is raving about the (stock) power of the old 7.3 Powerstroke. At least not in the last 15 years or more. That is a poor comparison by which to make a point.
I certainly hope not ,bought new ,and drove for nearly 16 years a early 99 7.3 Powerstroke . Did a great job on any thing around 10K or under ,after that it fell on its face .
Agreed... We have a 02 7.3PSD and power is not it's strength. Having said that I've read reports of ex 7.3PSD owners who now own a 7.3 gas and reported a much improved towing experience.
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