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DrewE

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Posted: 11/01/20 05:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think they may technically need to put clearance lights on (the overall width of the body seems to be maybe an inch over 80").

It is an interesting and pretty well thought out design. I'd be interested to see how the laminated fiberglass and foam structure holds up over time without a metal framework for the basic body; it probably can't be any worse than some more traditionally built RVs, at the least.

Also: A nice amount of counter space, a big kitchen sink, a large fridge and freezer, but no stovetop at all (unless I missed it somewhere)?





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Lwiddis wrote:

Is the ground clearance low or am I imagining that?
The GC at the lowest point is a little over 10 in, the rest is about 15 in if I remember correctly.

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Comparing a B-Box to my 2007 Phoenix Cruiser 2350 HERE.

B-Box - 9'-8" tall to the top of the roof plus vent pipes = 9'-11".
My Phoenix Cruiser - 9'-10" to the highest point, the a/c unit.

B-Box - 22'-9" long.
My Phoenix Cruiser - 23'-8" long.

B-Box - ~83" wide.
My Phoenix Cruiser - 93" wide.

B-Box has a wet bath with shower curtain out in the main isle.
My Phoenix Cruiser has a private dry bath.

B-Box has a couch/bed facing forward, and front seats that swivel rearward.
You sleep on the couch/bed. Where do you eat?
My Phoenix Cruiser has full-time double bed, full size dinette, 3rd captain seat, and front passenger swivel seat. I have dedicated eating, sleeping, and relaxing areas, something for everyone at the same time.

Watching the video, I see the auto-levelers hanging way down. Their thoughts about off-roading seems risky without them, let alone with them.

B-Box has technical complexity up the ying-yang.
My Phoenix Cruiser is simple.

B-Box costs between $300,000 and $490,000? Is that right?
My Phoenix Cruiser cost me $67,000 back in 2007.

B-Box may be ideal for someone else, but not for me.
Still, I admire their creativity and wish the company great success.

* This post was edited 11/02/20 03:37am by ron.dittmer *


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pianotuna wrote:

IAMICHABOD wrote:


But it comes with Air Tabs.......[emoticon]

I already have those.......


YA Me TOO.........................[emoticon]


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Gjac wrote:

On second thought I googled the B box RV cost. They said it was between $300-$490k


ROFLMAO. Good luck with that although there is one born every minute, or so they say.

Meanwhile for the low low price of $389K.

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GDS-3950BH wrote:

Gjac wrote:

On second thought I googled the B box RV cost. They said it was between $300-$490k


ROFLMAO. Good luck with that although there is one born every minute, or so they say.

Meanwhile for the low low price of $389K.

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Way too big.

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Gjac wrote:

On second thought I googled the B box RV cost. They said it was between $300-$490k I think I will pass. Still a nice design, they just need to make it more affordable.

Sadly, at that price point, it will not sell !

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Vans are all the rage. There is a lot of innovation that comes with them, and the cult of smallness. They have some high tech solutions.

They are the RVs for people that don't like RVs.
The problem has always been the cost. The people that buy the tricked out vans tend to be high income, high education urbanites.

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theoldwizard1 wrote:

Gjac wrote:

On second thought I googled the B box RV cost. They said it was between $300-$490k I think I will pass. Still a nice design, they just need to make it more affordable.

Sadly, at that price point, it will not sell !
You are right, the class B vans tend to be much higher in price than small class C's mainly because they have to build inside the van chassis where as a C or A they can build on the floor and install the sides and top afterwards. To me that is not a van chassis but a cutaway like what the C's are built on. I would eliminate all the high tech electronic stuff, 4 LI batteries, recycled water system etc use Al extrusions instead of the FG pultrusion's buy just the flat panels and build it like a C rather than inside the box. If they could get the price down to $80k I think it would sell well. More room inside than a CLass B van but shorter, narrower and lower in height than a Class C. To me it is just a C- or a B+ what ever you want to call it.

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Considering that ARV is a custom builder, and each rig is a one-off, I've no doubt they will be able to sell this rig and others like it.

Now whether that is a good value for dollar is a totally different question.

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