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ReneeG

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Posted: 11/13/20 09:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

goducks10 wrote:

BTDT and a 5er is IMO much easier to hitch and unhitch. It's also better at towing. My wife could've towed our last 5er easily. Not so with our current TT. It's just not as solid in some conditions as a 5th wheel is.
Side winds, semis don't faze 5th wheels like they do TT's.


Not so says the former owner of a Hensley Arrow TT hitch. Once hooked up it is solid going down the road. Blows the "fifth wheel is better towing" theory.


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spud1957 wrote:

spud1957 wrote:

I towed a 10k 5th wheel for 7 years with a 6.2. Great combo. The F250 with 3:73 gears is rated to tow 12,000 lbs. For those asking, the payload of that truck is at least 2600 lbs.

Put the transmission in tow haul, lock out 6th year, drive it like you stole it.

Don't let anyone suggest you need a diesel. That's laughable.

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My bad. I thought OP had a 250. Payload for 350 will be North of 3500 lbs.


Nope, not bad, just a detail! [emoticon] I know you well enough, to know that you would know, a 15 gas F350 would have much more payload. The OP says RAWR is 6290 on his 15 F350. That seems low to me??

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bucky wrote:

To the OP. Please forward a resume in case this turns out bad. No pic needed. [emoticon]


Well, I could post a picture of us towing our trailer with a 2000 Excursion, V10. Go Ford! [emoticon]

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BurbMan wrote:

Scroll down to the last page on this Ford Towing Guide and see that your truck is rated for a max of 12,000 lb fifth wheel if you have the 3.73 axle ratio and 15,000 lbs if you have the 4.30 axle.

These would be loaded or GVWR weights on the trailer, so something in the 10k dry weight range is probably right.

Also remember that a 5er puts about 20% of its weight on the pin, so a loaded 15k trailer puts 15000 * 20% = 3000 pin weight plus hitch and whatever else is in the truck. Check the yellow weight sticker on the driver's door jamb so you don't go over that loaded weight for the truck.

Sorry to say this is one vote for the hubster....


Wow, where did you get the information on towing? I've not seen information presented that way. I have an Excursion I would like to look up. Thank you

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Lwiddis wrote:

I just don't believe one is "easier" than the other. Each has its advantages.


Exactly - if both set up right and matched to the correct truck.

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ReneeG wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

BTDT and a 5er is IMO much easier to hitch and unhitch. It's also better at towing. My wife could've towed our last 5er easily. Not so with our current TT. It's just not as solid in some conditions as a 5th wheel is.
Side winds, semis don't faze 5th wheels like they do TT's.


Not so says the former owner of a Hensley Arrow TT hitch. Once hooked up it is solid going down the road. Blows the "fifth wheel is better towing" theory.


Very true. The nice thing is with a 5er is that you don't have to spend north of $2500 to have exc towing.
BTDT as well. I used an HA with a 1/2 ton and TT. It was every bit as good as my 5er. Most people won't buy a Hensley or PP so they'll never be in that group.

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goducks10 wrote:

ReneeG wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

BTDT and a 5er is IMO much easier to hitch and unhitch. It's also better at towing. My wife could've towed our last 5er easily. Not so with our current TT. It's just not as solid in some conditions as a 5th wheel is.
Side winds, semis don't faze 5th wheels like they do TT's.


Not so says the former owner of a Hensley Arrow TT hitch. Once hooked up it is solid going down the road. Blows the "fifth wheel is better towing" theory.


Very true. The nice thing is with a 5er is that you don't have to spend north of $2500 to have exc towing.
BTDT as well. I used an HA with a 1/2 ton and TT. It was every bit as good as my 5er. Most people won't buy a Hensley or PP so they'll never be in that group.


While a HA will make a TT tow like a 5er, there is a limit to what it can rectify. I see too many too small trucks towing too larger 5ers and seldom see the tail wag the dog!


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rhagfo wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

ReneeG wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

BTDT and a 5er is IMO much easier to hitch and unhitch. It's also better at towing. My wife could've towed our last 5er easily. Not so with our current TT. It's just not as solid in some conditions as a 5th wheel is.
Side winds, semis don't faze 5th wheels like they do TT's.


Not so says the former owner of a Hensley Arrow TT hitch. Once hooked up it is solid going down the road. Blows the "fifth wheel is better towing" theory.


Very true. The nice thing is with a 5er is that you don't have to spend north of $2500 to have exc towing.
BTDT as well. I used an HA with a 1/2 ton and TT. It was every bit as good as my 5er. Most people won't buy a Hensley or PP so they'll never be in that group.


While a HA will make a TT tow like a 5er, there is a limit to what it can rectify. I see too many too small trucks towing too larger 5ers and seldom see the tail wag the dog!


HA is only for TTs and not FWs. For towing a FW comfortably, there's the TrailerSaver! Have that. Air ride for comfort and a true Holland Binkley head for safety. The name says it all!

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