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craig7h

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Posted: 01/21/21 03:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We downsized about 6 years ago from a 35' 5th Wheel. Thinking we did not need something that large and wanted something easier to set up. We decided on a 30' gasser 2017 v10 new rig. It was great enough power for what we wanted pulled the car etc. The engine noise was doable but then I have a hard time hearing anyway. After traveling a year and half we knew we lost some important things in the downsize. The holding tanks on the gasser were very small black was only 26 gal.. Maybe more important was lack of storage both inside and out.

We started looking for different units and found that the diesels pushers have alot more outside storage than other units. Anyway my point is you need to look at what you are going to be doing with your rig.

If for weekends a gasser may work out, if for long trips I would go with diesel. As we go out for months at a time the diesel with all its storage is the correct unit for us. By the way the 2007 Itasca Meridian is so much better built than the 2017 gasser.


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OP here.

Thanks for the input from you guys. We full timed in a 35' fiver for three years, thus the reason for my diesel truck. But after setting up in the rain, and the DW having to go potty every 1.5 hours, usually while traveling somewhere through downtown USA, I think a Class A would suit us better for a couple of weeks at a time.

I remember setting up in a storm in Georgia. We sat in the cab of the truck for an hour, until I gave up. I set up in a heavy rain, and was soaked after about 10 seconds from leaving the truck.
Just as I was finishing up, a dp pulled up in the site next door. After a few minutes, I looked up and saw the guy looking down at me, holding what appeared to be a nice glass of wine.

We laugh at that story now, but I've hooked up to my last fiver.

You guys are great....Keep 'em coming....Thanks


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Posted: 01/21/21 09:18am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

When you get somewhere in a Class A you're stuck. For that reason a 5'er is nice. You might consider adding a toad for getting groceries, sightseeing, etc.

Pulling toads is a whole other topic but getting the right one will make RV'ing much more satisfying IMO.

We're at a crossroads with our Class A and deciding on another gasser or DP. So far the DP is winning the battle. I'm tired of road noise and being pushed around by wind.

There's another recent thread along those lines (cbr46)

Best,
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Hi,

Yes, this horse has been beating a time or two before! LOL

I'd just like to make a few comments and questions for you.

First, I'll say that the floorplan is probably the MOST important thing for the majority of RV'ers. Once you're parked, that's what's most important as that's where you will live. You want to make sure that it works for your expected use. If you'll be stopping at rest stops/Walmarts/Flying J's/etc. for sleeping while on the road, make SURE that everything you need access to is available when the slides are in. You may not be able to deploy your slides in such areas.

If you're going to do A LOT of travelling, the DP will invariably give you a better experience. That said, we've done fine in our gasser. But I've been warned never to test drive a DP unless I'm going to buy one, as I'll never be happy with the gasser again. Knowing me, I believe that could be true! LOL

What are you plans for towing a vehicle to get around with once you arrive at your destination? You have to make sure whatever chassis you select has adequate towing capability. This might require some investment in your current vehicle to make it towable and/or purchase of a different vehicle.

Personally, about the time period you mention for the newer, used gassers, RV manufacturer's seemed to adopt a "dark theme" for the interiors of many RV's. Both my wife and I dislike the dark color schemes. I've noticed now they do offer some "white-wash" look lighter shades, but I still don't like them as much as the lighter, natural wood shade we have in our motorhome and those manufactured back in the first decade of 2000. I knot that's personal, but it might come into play if you're not crazy about the "dark" look. (I'll admit, my eyes aren't the greatest, which is why I LIKE it fairly bright in a room when I want to see something. The dark interiors just aren't conducive to that requirement.)

The other thing I've noticed is that the "newer rigs" seem to have way too much "technology" in them for my personal preference. I come from the era of wanting a button, knob or switch for appliance controls. I don't want to reach for my phone or a tablet to adjust the thermostat. Some like that convenience, but for me, it's an extra complexity that is likely to cause problems down the road. And then what do you do when the "app" is no longer available for your latest model phone? Computers have their place, but aside from my personal devices (and the engine & transmission), I don't really want them controlling stuff in my RV. Again, this tips the scales toward older units if it's a concern of yours.

On Edit: Ok...I just read your latest post about Fivers. Disregard this paragraph! [emoticon] As for getting a Fifth Wheel as you already have the truck. But is that truck capable of pulling a Fifth Wheel which will satisfy your needs, and what's it overall condition? Will you have to trade it in for another? I know people with Fivers and they love them as it works best for them. (Though, a few have mentioned they'd probably get a moho if they could). I can see the advantages of one for many people. But while travelling, the motorhome is so much more convenient. Everything is at your finger tips while on the road. In my opinion, it is the BEST way to travel, especially if you're travelling with a family. The level of convenience while travelling in a motorhome just isn't possible by any other solution.

IF we ever decide to change our first & only RV purchased new back in 2004, it most likely will be with a gently used, high-end DP from the early 2000 vintage period. They are out there, and I believe you might be able to find one in your price range. For $75k now, you should be able to buy a rig which cost over $500k new 20 years ago! The quality in that used high-end rig will be apparent as soon as you step into it.

Good Luck in whatever you decide.

~Rick


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Rick, Gail, 1 girl (25-Angel since 2008), 1 girl (20), 2 boys (21 & 18).
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What size? How many slides? Or no slides?
You could step up your game by going with an older but higher quality unit such as a Foretravel or even a Newell in that price range. But whatever you decide on get an inspection by someone very familiar with the brand you're considering.

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Thanks guys.

We plan to pull the dw's Toyoya Camry. It's front wheel drive, and I'll have to use a dolly, as it can't be towed four wheels down.

Also, we live in Texas, and I've heard (I need to investigate) that a vehicle with a gross weight over 31,000lbs requires an upgraded drivers license.

Not a CDL, but one specifically for motorhomes. Anyone out there have additional info?

I have seen, what seems like some good buys out there on Newmars, Winnebago Venture, and FW Expeditions. I prefer to purchase from an individual, and yes, I will pay for an expert inspection. I've figured and additional $1500 for that.

Also, the gassers I sat in, the dog house seems to be a bit of a pain to get around. As with anything, I suppose I can get used to it, but makes me lean toward the older dp's as well.

Thanks again.

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We have had a gas V10 and bought a 40ft DP in 2011 and really enjoy it.
The only thing I would change if I purchase again is a DP with a side Radiator for easier access to the Engine.

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There are some good comments on this. I echo that floor plan and condition are most important in my opinion. For us we picked up a well maintained DP for $40k in the floor plan we liked. At our age, and given the types of our trips, the smoother, quieter ride of the DP was our #3 requirement. We are in our 4th year with is and don't regret it for a moment. Much of our RV enjoyment is the drive itself.

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Keep in mind that the used RV you are looking at is for sale because the previous owner is done with it. You may wonder why. Most everyone on this forum, and other RV'rs have gone through more than one RV before they settled on their current coach, at least until the next one comes along. Take your time and do not let emotion cloud your decision. Ask yourself why this used coach is for sale. Don't buy someone else's problems and don't expect this to be your last Class A. It is just the way it is.

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If you want quality buy an older DP. My 2011 has a great chassis and drivetrain but the ceiling is falling down and the upholstery is shedding vinyl every day.


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