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HadEnough

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Posted: 06/14/21 03:37pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

jimh425 wrote:

First, “out west” it’s a lot farther between places which means if you ride by yourself and break down, you might be there a while on a bike. Something to consider if you haven’t.

Anyway, I’d bite the bullet and adapt the front hitch to a motorcycle carrier. It will only be stronger with double receivers. You won’t enjoy working around the bike to get in/out of the camper assuming you don’t have a side entry. Also, the weight will be handled better on the front.


Ok. Good points. I do have rear entry which is why I was going for 48” extension instead of 36.

I already have a motorcycle carrier for the rear hitch. 2”. Works perfection no truck camper.

I have to drill out holes in 2” tubing, cut 2” tubing, drill holes in my motorcycle carrier to do the front.

I’ll post a bunch of pics now of what I have. Should have started with this.

* This post was edited 06/14/21 03:52pm by HadEnough *

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This is something I just discovered. There is a sort of dual hitch receiver on the back of the truck. Both are 2”.

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Another angle of the dual hitch in back. I was only looking at the single one.

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This is what I have in the front. A set of 2” receivers. They are loose. They pivot up and down.

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This is what the fronts look like underneath at the attachment points. They are individual units, not connected to each other. The right side of the picture is the front of the truck. The left side is the back of the truck. The black metal is the 2” hitch receiver. The rust metal is a support bolted to the frame. The receiver tube (black) pivots on the bolt in the lower right hand corner of this pic. That allows the receiver to pivot upwards and downwards at the bumper. If you look closely, you can see a gap above the bolt on the lower left side of the pic. That gap is a space between the receiver tube and frame. I have this receiver tube pivoted upward, toward the sky to illustrate the gap. Was think of jamming something into that gap, but it’ll probably fall out over bumps.

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This is the other side of one of the pivoting front receiver tubes. You can see the L bracket was supposed to keep it from pivoting but it doesn’t work.


Given this is what I’m working with, should I go back to the front rack idea and do all that work knowing it might block the radiator, block the headlights and get covered in bugs?

Or should I keep at the back hitch idea? And what about my dual rear hitch receivers? Anything I can do there?

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Posted: 06/14/21 03:55pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Leave the moto behind? OMG!

Anyway... with weight on those front receivers they will not move down the tubes will "swing" up into the frame and stop.

But with 500lbs of bike and carrier there could be floppage on the upstroke on highway whoop de dos

Can you weld the L bracket to the tubes on the front?

You can get 3 welds on each.

With the fastener sizes etc they aren't going to break off I wouldn't think.

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noteven wrote:

Leave the moto behind? OMG!

Anyway... with weight on those front receivers they will not move down the tubes will "swing" up into the frame and stop.

But with 500lbs of bike and carrier there could be floppage on the upstroke on highway whoop de dos

Can you weld the L bracket to the tubes on the front?

You can get 3 welds on each.

With the fastener sizes etc they aren't going to break off I wouldn't think.



Bike is 300lbs. Rack is about 40lbs max. Aluminum rack. I really would prefer not to leave the bike behind.

Problem with just letting them droop is the bike rack clearance gets pretty slim.

Maybe I can get someone to weld those l brackets on. That’s a good thought.

I just have no experience with all of this hitch stuff and it’s very, very complicated.

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MC on front dual receiver would be a lot safer than at end of 48" extension. Also out of the way for rear access.
2 days before you leave though...

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Few ways, with all in the downward rotation, welding may stop pivoting. But you'd want to ensure there in position
to easily slide in rack. Cleaning for welding with them mounted be a pain.

Could add another bolt in close fit holes to the angle/tube. Even thru the flat plate or both sides.
Drilling while mounted again would painful.

Or could utilize existing frame holes on other side and 'pivot' bolt and add a piece of flat bar.
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Lastly maybe remove rear bolt, insert/drive a very tight fitting tube/pipe between tube walls so when bolt reinserted
you can tighten the heck out of it with out tube wall yielding.

If the holes thru tube are considerably larger than bolts, (only way I can see the pivoting action) could increase bolt size.


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I think you’re right. Thanks!

After sleeping on this, the front mount is the way to go.

Thanks for the tips on how to reinforce them. I’ll fab up the front rack and go with that.



AnEv942 wrote:

MC on front dual receiver would be a lot safer than at end of 48" extension. Also out of the way for rear access.
2 days before you leave though...

[image]
Few ways, with all in the downward rotation, welding may stop pivoting. But you'd want to ensure there in position
to easily slide in rack. Cleaning for welding with them mounted be a pain.

Could add another bolt in close fit holes to the angle/tube. Even thru the flat plate or both sides.
Drilling while mounted again would painful.

Or could utilize existing frame holes on other side and 'pivot' bolt and add a piece of flat bar.
[image]

Lastly maybe remove rear bolt, insert/drive a very tight fitting tube/pipe between tube walls so when bolt reinserted
you can tighten the heck out of it with out tube wall yielding.

If the holes thru tube are considerably larger than bolts, (only way I can see the pivoting action) could increase bolt size.


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HadEnough wrote:

Where can I get a 48” extension that plugs into my existing 2” hitch receiver on the truck and will accept a 2” product on the far end?


Commercially available 2" extensions stop at 18", you'll need a 2-1/2" or 3" to go 48" out.


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be careful with the install. on my 2018 ram the hitch bolted through a hollow truck frame, and they had a torque spec of like 120 lbs. it will crush that solid frame with that torque.


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Done!

I went with the advice for the front mount.

By some miracle, the headlights aren’t blocked. Now I just need to put some covers in place for the bugs. [image]

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Consider buying some 1 1/2 inch motorcycle tiedowns from a bike shop. The extra width makes it easier to attach and get loose. Also, ditch the super thin straps you have on the bike. There is a reason you frequently see shredded orange straps on the highways. They are super cheap and don’t hold up.


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