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Yep, even though it’s not my issue, I enjoy reading and learning along from a Pro like Doug - Glad that he post !!

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There are a few areas for the fuses on a Midwest depending on the Model(They make about 12 models).
1. Under the drivers floorboard is the chassis battery. When you remove the covers to access the battery you will see various inline fuses that control cables between the Coach and Chassis battery. These are Midwest installed
2. Under the drivers seat on the side viewing from the open drivers door is a set of fuses (atc mini) (Mercedes)
3. On the left side of the drivers area next to the left foot of the driver is another set of mini ATC fuses. Mercedes
4. If you did not know, your Coach battery is at the rear of the Midwest UNDER the floor in front of the bumper and is accessed from underneath the Van. There are usually 2 Lifeline batteries and VERY heavy. If NOT Lifeline then somebody has changed to a different brand. Also, if NOT Lifeline, you have to make sure the Charger system(usually you have an Inverter/Charger) is set up to charge batteries that are NOT Lifeline. Doug

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Thank you, Doug! I will check these fuses when we get stopped. We are certainly having issues. Driving down the road, the coach battery is not being charged by the chassis battery. The battery charges fine from the solar panel but at night when we are driving, the coach battery constantly gives E1 error messages.

Is it unreasonable to think that I could cook or run the microwave driving down the road, because I have been unable to do either of these for more than 10 seconds and then and E1 error message on the inverter.

Do you have a contact for a Midwest servicer near Chattanooga, TN? I have left a few messages for Midwest and have gotten no response.

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Correction: the coach battery is not sufficiently charged by the solar panel for us to run a TV and DVD while driving down the road on a virtually cloudless day. The battery will be full and then we try to run one electronic and we gradually lose battery and get e1 error messages on the inverter.

To top it off, apparently our propane tank bleeder valve is not operational! Need to get that fixed too. I guess I will just take that to Camper World? I still love this vehicle, but thought we had purchased something basically new with less than 5000 miles and it appears to be a lemon!

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1. IF the coach battery was GOOD, you could run the Microwave regardless of driving or the Genset
2. Solar ONLY really charges SLOWLY when you are stored. It will charge in use, but you will deplete whatever charging the solar supplies by using the Motorhome.
3. AS I stated. Get hold of Midwest. You have problems now, go to CW and you WILL have problems. They will NOT have anybody skilled enough to work on your particular motorhome.
4. The battery is NOT full. I don't know how you are determining it is full, but it is NOT. A BAD battery can show 12.1 and up volts, but that does not mean it is good. Look, you think you have a Lemon. You do NOT. Maybe the previous owner never got this problem fixed and sold it to you. BUT, get the battery replaced and the charge system fixed and you have a good motorhome.
5. Last, MY pet peeve[emoticon] You have a problem. You have NOT been able to get it to someone that knows what they are doing and now you complain about it being a Lemon. Lemons are when after NUMEROUS attempts at the same fix they never fix it.
6. Call Midwest at 574-522-4878 Ask for Brian or Kyle or Noy. Tell them you are just trying to find a Midwest Service center in your area. Last resort is, ask them if you drive to Elkhart, Indiana will they be able to look and fix. That means a 5 to8 hour drive depending on how far you are from Elkhart. Doug

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1. Thank you, now I know that my battery is not good!
2. That jives with what I have observed about the solar panel
3. Will call midwest again tomorrow and try to track down someone qualified!my mobile RV tech just texted me “ I ordered a converter to test the system to see if it is your inverter causing the problem”. But per your rec, I am going to look for a Midwest specialist before going back to him.
4. I am saying full battery based on the zamp solar charge controller status lights, but now I understand, thanks to you, that this does not mean battery is full or good
5. This is encouraging. My husband is way more frustrated than me and keeps saying “everything is broken” “does anything work?”. But he never wanted to like this vehicle from the beginning. All my idea to buy this and so I’m the one who has to work out these issues. I’m sure you love knowing this added level of marital issues on top (ha!) I love the vehicle and really want him to as well! You have encouraged me that this all can be repaired!
6. Will keep you posted on what I hear from Midwest! Very grateful for your professional help!!!! THANk YOU!!!

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National Indoor RV works on Midwest. I would use National indoor RV. Doug

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Thanks, I’ve left 3 messages at Midwest and I just called national indoor RV. They said they just started working with American Coach. He also told me that I should have to run the generator to use the TV driving down the road and that the chassis battery does not charge the cabin battery. I feel like they may not understand the vehicle since those two things contradict what you say. I will keep trying to get in touch with Midwest. Do you have any other suggests on a good tech in the southeast. Atlanta, Nashville, Birmingham and Knoxville are all convenient to Chattanooga. Thank you!

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Sprintervanmom wrote:

Thanks, I’ve left 3 messages at Midwest and I just called national indoor RV. They said they just started working with American Coach. He also told me that I should have to run the generator to use the TV driving down the road and that the chassis battery does not charge the cabin battery. I feel like they may not understand the vehicle since those two things contradict what you say. I will keep trying to get in touch with Midwest. Do you have any other suggests on a good tech in the southeast. Atlanta, Nashville, Birmingham and Knoxville are all convenient to Chattanooga. Thank you!


Well I have worked on Midwest for 6 years and we were one of the FIRST dealers west of the Mississippi to carry Midwest. What he told you is flat wrong and I would NOT use them. Midwest suggested them. Midwest suggested Grants Auto Trim in your town, but I did not list them as they are a Auto upholstery shop and their website did not state they were proficient at RV systems, just upholstery. The charge solenoid for the Chassis to Coach is usually located under the Front Passenger chair on your model. Doug

PS Midwest Brian Stout 574-522 4878 ext 111

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Hi Doug,
Wanted to give you an update since you have been so helpful. Eric at Midwest gave us a call back and he has been consulting with my RV Tech.

Concerning the air conditioning kicking off because the voltage drops when the generator is running: They tested the voltage with the generator running and determined that most likely my inverter needs to be replaced ($1100 part and needs a new panel because concerned that if we buy the same model we may have the same problem: whomp whomp) They can't be 100%sure that's the issue but that is their best guess.

Concerning the battery not charging when we are driving: Eric says that there was a BIM/BGI installed that the manufacturer originally thought was needed to protect the battery and now they have determined that it is not needed and should be removed.

Our next steps are to have my RV Tech replace the inverter with a newer model and removed the BIM/BGI and go from there. He feel confident in his ability to deal with the wiring to do these things.

any thoughts on this course of action?

Thank you!
Kakhi

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