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Rug

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Posted: 11/06/21 08:18am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Get a long bed dual wheel. Add an auxiliary fuel tank. You will not have to pull that large 5th wheel into a gas ststion. Get in for the night unhook then go fuel up.


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rhagfo wrote:

Michelle.S wrote:

Any of the Big Three Diesel Duallies and never look back, take your pick.


This is true, I am partial to Ram we currently tow with a 2016 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW long bed CTD and Aisin trans.
We full time and it is our only vehicle, we both drive it and there are not many places we won’t drive it. Payload of 5,411#, towing capacity of 25,225#.


Your payload number really is an irrelevant number unless you stick to the false 14k GVWR that is only there for licensing and insurance reasons.

SAE axle ratings are 6k front and 9,750# rear. Funny how I load mine to it’s SAE RAWR with my RV’s 6k pin and can’t possibly be 14k.

Simply have tonnage to cover your loaded weight.


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TXiceman wrote:

Dry Weight14,344 lbs.GVWR16,800 lbs.Hitch Weight2,686 lbs.

The loaded pin weight will be 3360# or more.

I would not order anything less than a diesel dually for that much trailer. People that are using SRW trucks on these larger trailers are just kidding themselves.

Ken


Those numbers won’t hold up in the real world. Minimum 20% pin on that RV will be 4,200# and likely much higher. That RV simply does not stop gaining weight at 16,800#.

My RV has a 21k GVWR but somehow the loaded weight is 24k.

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Rug wrote:

Get a long bed dual wheel. Add an auxiliary fuel tank. You will not have to pull that large 5th wheel into a gas ststion. Get in for the night unhook then go fuel up.


Truly don’t get this logic. I use truckstops right along the highway I know I can get in and out easily. Yes I pay a few cents more but it does cost to drive to town and back.

Really after 8-10 hours of towing I would rather kick back have a beer and a good meal.

If I ever feel the need to have more fuel on board I sure wouldn’t take up space from my current bed height 30” front to back toolbox. Instead I would get a 55 gallon TITAN tank.

Traveling many times I stay connected and simply drop a couple leveling Rams to level and stabilize the RV.

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Look into a used HDT (Heavy Duty Truck) that will handle *anything* you want to tow. Less $ than a new Dually pickup, more whistles and bells, and can be registered as a Motor Home in most states.

With the integrated sleeper cab, you (also) have a Motor Home for day trips. Lots of folks carry a motorcycle, ORV, or a Smart Car on the deck (bed).

For an HDT, the pin weights he mentions are like a flea on an elephant's back, ROTFL.

Check out the benefits/advantages on Escapees HDT forum.

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Oh another nice thing about my is the factory rear air ride. In ALT ride mode ground to top of back bed corner is 55”. Now add my measly 6k pin weight and guess what the bed height stays exactly 55”.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

TXiceman wrote:

Dry Weight14,344 lbs.GVWR16,800 lbs.Hitch Weight2,686 lbs.

The loaded pin weight will be 3360# or more.

I would not order anything less than a diesel dually for that much trailer. People that are using SRW trucks on these larger trailers are just kidding themselves.

Ken


Those numbers won’t hold up in the real world. Minimum 20% pin on that RV will be 4,200# and likely much higher. That RV simply does not stop gaining weight at 16,800#.

My RV has a 21k GVWR but somehow the loaded weight is 24k.


So true 40’ 5er with a 2,456# payload will easily gain that much.
We scaled our rig last trip our 12,360# GVWR currently weighs 13,200# with a 2,850# pin.


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Russ you are among the very few that have a clue what their RV actually weighs.

It’s crazy how they never stop gaining weight, kinda like a Pig.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Russ you are among the very few that have a clue what their RV actually weighs.

It’s crazy how they never stop gaining weight, kinda like a Pig.


Ron, so true, see many towing big 40'+ 5er with stated GVWR of 16,000#+,, but ridiculous low payloads in the low to mid 2,000# range. A weekender may get away with a SRW, but full timer will be pushing the tires well beyond their limits.
Scaling in Oregon is easy just need a closed weigh station, the remote display that you can easily see from the drivers seat, and the scale is active. Yes, they only display in 50# increments, but close enough. I still have issues with our FAT TV, still scales at 10,000# ready to hook up.

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Yea ours is 10k also, must be the hips! WA State same but they display in 20# increments.

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