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Canuck Travellers

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Posted: 03/17/22 05:33am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Rapid test gone April 1st when crossing into Canada....however....

ArriveCAN app still required....half a load is better than none!

Reports: Canada planning to drop border testing requirement | Tri-City Herald
https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/state/washington/article259465749.html

Passengers still could subject to random PCR testing at the airport and travelers will still have to use the ArriveCAN app to submit their proof of vaccination and other required information, according to CTV.

Read more at: https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/state/washington/article259465749.html#storylink=cpy


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AriveCan is a nasty piece of code. It won't run on older Android devices. At Christmas time it would also not run on iphones.


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Posted: 03/17/22 05:12pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

pianotuna wrote:

AriveCan is a nasty piece of code. It won't run on older Android devices. At Christmas time it would also not run on iphones.


Silly requirement, it's all about control, the authorities just can't give that up, it diminishes their job responsibilities.

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pianotuna wrote:

AriveCan is a nasty piece of code. It won't run on older Android devices. At Christmas time it would also not run on iphones


....you can say that again! More and more Canadian snowbirds reporting back to me are only holding their cell phones out the window so that the border agent can read the negative test(s) for the passengers. That is. But testing is now a moot point crossing back. April 1st.


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Posted: 03/18/22 06:44am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Moisheh wrote:

Did you have any trouble getting a test that would still be valid when you crossed?


Moisheh:

No problem getting an testing appointment for RAT / NAAT / PCR tests in Florida, and, along our entire route home (every State from Florida to New York). The pharmacies we have gone into calendars and web portals on show EASY access, and very open times. We have been probing wait times and delays for a few weeks now. I can only infer that few if anyone are getting tests along or route home (this may vary spatially/temporally across the USA). Just be aware that the Walgreens testing portal blanks out their test schedule on "the present day". So, for example, if you want to book a NAAT, RAT, or PCR test on the same day you log into their portal, you will have to book a time slot the day after.

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....this thread has probably now run its course. Just one last item of important interest, that may inform the course of this pandemic. Whether you are vaccinated or not, this recent comprehensive article in Medscape may save your sanity. It is a comprehensive review of all known scientific research on why we now are certain, that natural immunity will be the policy of close to every nation on Earth, whether you choose the vaccination route, or not. It is a long article, with a link to each piece of research backing the article thesis:

Covid-19: Why are we Ignoring Infection-Acquired Immunity?

....the section on long-lasting protection, Comparisons With Vaccine-induced Immunity, Caution Over Boosters and now, you having read all the supporting research linked in the article, the most poignant section, the future of Public Health Policy will drive home how we should proceed in the future with natural immunity policy IF inconvenient science does not continue to be sidelined.

* This post was edited 03/19/22 06:25am by silversand *

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silversand wrote:

natural immunity will be the policy of close to every nation on Earth
The article contradicts what the epidemiologists that I pay attention to say. Actually, all of them say that immunity caused by previous infection is worth something, at least for a while.

Personally I think various governments have given up - it is what it is in their eyes. Some people will unnecessarily die but hopefully not enough that it'll make a difference in the next elections.

Personally, I'll continue to wear my mask and observe former guidelines despite the fact that many governments are / have dropped them. Hopefully my triple vaxxed status will keep me out of the hospital. I don't want to get immunity through infection because too great a risk of long COVID symptoms.

YMMV

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joebedford,

Well said.

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.....with every individual BA.2 shedder infecting up to 12 others (Esterman, Australian epidemiologist), Omicron BA.2 is right up there with measles (and maybe even more so) as the most contagious pathogens yet known to science. There is no known mRNA vaccine than can protect anyone from acquiring "it", no matter how many doses you get (even 4). It will infect every living breathing person on Earth in the coming weeks (not months). There are presently more than 3 million in the UK with symptomatic BA.2 today (2.93 million 2 days ago). This happened in a few weeks. In about 2 weeks, BA.2 will be the "only game in town" across the US and Canada.

Stay healthy, get exercise, eat exceptionally nutritious foods, get plenty of sleep, keep alcohol consumption low, and if you have 3 mRNA shots, count yourself lucky. Prepare to be naturally infected, no matter what protective measures you use (the only exception is BSL-4 equivalent permanent personal lockdown).

A must watch; Dr John Campbell on BA.2 Here-->

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silversand wrote:

....this thread has probably now run its course. Just one last item of important interest, that may inform the course of this pandemic. Whether you are vaccinated or not, this recent comprehensive article in Medscape may save your sanity. It is a comprehensive review of all known scientific research on why we now are certain, that natural immunity will be the policy of close to every nation on Earth, whether you choose the vaccination route, or not. It is a long article, with a link to each piece of research backing the article thesis:

Covid-19: Why are we Ignoring Infection-Acquired Immunity?

....the section on long-lasting protection, Comparisons With Vaccine-induced Immunity, Caution Over Boosters and now, you having read all the supporting research linked in the article, the most poignant section, the future of Public Health Policy will drive home how we should proceed in the future with natural immunity policy IF inconvenient science does not continue to be sidelined.


Did you follow your advice and read the linked studies in the summary article you posted? The first paragraph states

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Antibodies derived from natural infection with COVID-19 are more abundant and more potent – at least 10 times more potent – than immunity generated by vaccination alone, according to a study from Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU) in Portland, US, published on January 25.

In order to determine that natural infection produces 10x more antibodies than vaccination one would assume the linked study from Oregon Health & Science University would have measured the antibody levels in people who were only infected and not vaccinated. I find no data in the linked study on antibodies from only infection.

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