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rhagfo

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blofgren wrote:

Exhaust brake - I played around with the settings on it, and even in full on and the transmission in tow/haul mode, it worked OK, but definitely not nearly as strong as the one in my Ram/Cummins. I would estimate it to be about half as strong, but I suspect that the one in my truck is super strong due in part to the manual transmission.


Well strength is partly based on the gear the transmission is in, likely the auto was a gear or two higher than what you descended the hill in.

I find the EB on our 2016 Ram to be slightly less aggressive than the PacBrake I installed on our 2001 Ram 2500 5.9.


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I have the 7.3 L gas in my 2022 F-250 with the 10 speed. This is an awesome performer! Super happy with it. I'm very impressed with how a 7500 lb vehicle can move like that. So far, 11K miles and very few complaints. A couple minor glitches from Ford, but the drivetrain is all I had hoped for. Pulls my 8000lb TT effortlessly. Now I don't decide whether I should try to pass, instead how fast I want to pass. An a superb set of brakes to boot. As a daily driver it averages 15 mpg, gets nearly 20 on the highway, and just sounds tough as heck when I punch it. So far, the best vehicle I've ever owned. Well worth the $2500 price tag for the engine upgrade.


Glad you like your truck, but the 11 or so being reported for that engine on Fuelly is probably a more realistic expectation for most folks with mixed use empty and towing.


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Could be the computer is stuck in marketing mode, LOL. I spend some time every day in town and putting up at my woodlot before driving 25 highway miles to work, then back. The typical mix is a good representation of combined driving. When I went to WV for turkey a couple weeks ago, I reset it on I81 for the first hour until I got into serious hills and it was right at 22. Until I got through MD and WV to Mount Storm, it was solidly on 17.6. It snoozes at 1750 rpm doing 75. It's quite an improvement over my '07 F 150 in my sig pic. I didn't expect that. Time to calculate Payback period. HA! Towing around home in the PA rolling hills at 65 it's around 9.5


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IdaD wrote:

mosseater wrote:

I have the 7.3 L gas in my 2022 F-250 with the 10 speed. This is an awesome performer! Super happy with it. I'm very impressed with how a 7500 lb vehicle can move like that. So far, 11K miles and very few complaints. A couple minor glitches from Ford, but the drivetrain is all I had hoped for. Pulls my 8000lb TT effortlessly. Now I don't decide whether I should try to pass, instead how fast I want to pass. An a superb set of brakes to boot. As a daily driver it averages 15 mpg, gets nearly 20 on the highway, and just sounds tough as heck when I punch it. So far, the best vehicle I've ever owned. Well worth the $2500 price tag for the engine upgrade.


Glad you like your truck, but the 11 or so being reported for that engine on Fuelly is probably a more realistic expectation for most folks with mixed use empty and towing.


Based on your annual miles driven a 7.3 would be a perfect fit.


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blofgren wrote:

Exhaust brake - I played around with the settings on it, and even in full on and the transmission in tow/haul mode, it worked OK, but definitely not nearly as strong as the one in my Ram/Cummins. I would estimate it to be about half as strong, but I suspect that the one in my truck is super strong due in part to the manual transmission.


I wouldn't judge it based on this...it's entirely likely that the EB changes settings and gets more aggressive when you plug a trailer into the 7-pin connector.


It could very well be, but I had to use the service brakes several times on grades around the city in areas that I know I don't have to with my Ram/Cummins. To me, full on should be full strength whether a trailer is connected or not.


I’m pretty sure “on” on the Ford EB is full on it just doesn’t do much without the engine screaming. The Ford exhaust brake doesn’t create nearly as much back pressure as Ram’s. The Powerstroke needs to be revving about 2800 rpm to achieve the level of braking the Cummins does at 2000 rpm. The maximum level of braking between the two engines is not that different …. the thing is the Powerstroke needs 4000 rpm to achieve its full potential and the Cummins red lines at 3000 rpm.


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BurbMan wrote:

I wouldn't judge it based on this...it's entirely likely that the EB changes settings and gets more aggressive when you plug a trailer into the 7-pin connector.

Also probably gets more aggressive once it learns your driving style. I have 2 friends with the F350 that tow and they love the exhaust brake. They tow heavier than me and the EB keeps their speeds in check going downhill just the same as my Ram does.


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blofgren said: "Exhaust brake - I played around with the settings on it, and even in full on and the transmission in tow/haul mode, it worked OK, but definitely not nearly as strong as the one in my Ram/Cummins. I would estimate it to be about half as strong, but I suspect that the one in my truck is super strong due in part to the manual transmission."

The EB is the same and works the same with a stick and the auto's in lockup in the newer RAM's. No matter how you slice it the CUMMINS EB is second to none. When I can hold back 34k on a several mile 14% downhill locked in 2nd without touching the brakes that says it all.

I will take cold brakes at the bottom over winning the race to the top.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

blofgren said: "Exhaust brake - I played around with the settings on it, and even in full on and the transmission in tow/haul mode, it worked OK, but definitely not nearly as strong as the one in my Ram/Cummins. I would estimate it to be about half as strong, but I suspect that the one in my truck is super strong due in part to the manual transmission."

The EB is the same and works the same with a stick and the auto's in lockup in the newer RAM's. No matter how you slice it the CUMMINS EB is second to none. When I can hold back 34k on a several mile 14% downhill locked in 2nd without touching the brakes that says it all.

I will take cold brakes at the bottom over winning the race to the top.


The truck that has the capability to be first typically will give you a more easier pleasant towing experience.

Remember... Towing just got easier!

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FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

blofgren said: "Exhaust brake - I played around with the settings on it, and even in full on and the transmission in tow/haul mode, it worked OK, but definitely not nearly as strong as the one in my Ram/Cummins. I would estimate it to be about half as strong, but I suspect that the one in my truck is super strong due in part to the manual transmission."

The EB is the same and works the same with a stick and the auto's in lockup in the newer RAM's. No matter how you slice it the CUMMINS EB is second to none. When I can hold back 34k on a several mile 14% downhill locked in 2nd without touching the brakes that says it all.

I will take cold brakes at the bottom over winning the race to the top.


The truck that has the capability to be first typically will give you a more easier pleasant towing experience.

Remember... Towing just got easier!


I am fine with getting to the top every time AND having cool brakes on the way down. If I am fine with my measly 385/865 and towing 35k combined West coast most anyone else will be thrilled.

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FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

blofgren said: "Exhaust brake - I played around with the settings on it, and even in full on and the transmission in tow/haul mode, it worked OK, but definitely not nearly as strong as the one in my Ram/Cummins. I would estimate it to be about half as strong, but I suspect that the one in my truck is super strong due in part to the manual transmission."

The EB is the same and works the same with a stick and the auto's in lockup in the newer RAM's. No matter how you slice it the CUMMINS EB is second to none. When I can hold back 34k on a several mile 14% downhill locked in 2nd without touching the brakes that says it all.

I will take cold brakes at the bottom over winning the race to the top.


The truck that has the capability to be first typically will give you a more easier pleasant towing experience.

Remember... Towing just got easier!


I am fine with getting to the top every time AND having cool brakes on the way down. If I am fine with my measly 385/865 and towing 35k combined West coast most anyone else will be thrilled.


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