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2016 Ram short bed 6.7 diesel 2500 payload close to max

renojack
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I have the above tow vehicle and am lookong to trade up to a Grand Design with a pin weight of 2100 out of 2400 of trucks rated payload. Is this enough of a margin for added personal effects in trailer ,or am I pushing the limit too close??
RENOJACK
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spoon059
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BurbMan wrote:
Ok, so the OP has a short box diesel and the door jamb sticker says 2021 is its rated carrying capacity.
renojack wrote:
Tire sticker says 2021.


I have a 2015 Ram long box diesel 3500 and my sticker says 4292, for a difference of 2271 lbs. So you're saying that just adding air bags to a 2500 with DOUBLE its payload and make it the same as a 3500?

In terms of capability, yes.
In terms of legality, yes, but you would need to pay for a heavier registration weight and its PERFECTLY LEGAL.
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MFL
Nomad II
Nomad II
renojack wrote:
I have the above tow vehicle and am lookong to trade up to a Grand Design with a pin weight of 2100 out of 2400 of trucks rated payload. Is this enough of a margin for added personal effects in trailer ,or am I pushing the limit too close??


To answer the question concerning payload sticker, yes, you will go over 2400, with trailer loaded to camp, if dry hitch wt is 2100. Put a piece of tape over tire sticker, move on to axle/tire ratings.

Jerry

MFL
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Nomad II
The difference between the class 2 and class 3 is the GVWR, not the capability of the truck. The tire sticker is just the factory curb wt as delivered, minus the GVWR, which in this case, is for registration purpose.

Yes, if OP's tires are capable, adding air bags to springs will give same capability as 3500 class 3, which just uses a higher GVWR.

OP....look to your RAWR/tire max rating, rather than your payload sticker.

Jerry

BurbMan
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Ok, so the OP has a short box diesel and the door jamb sticker says 2021 is its rated carrying capacity.
renojack wrote:
Tire sticker says 2021.


I have a 2015 Ram long box diesel 3500 and my sticker says 4292, for a difference of 2271 lbs. So you're saying that just adding air bags to a 2500 with DOUBLE its payload and make it the same as a 3500?

spoon059
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Explorer II
4x4ord wrote:
The 3500 SRW and 2500 are very similar trucks. The payload rating is limited on account of the 6000 lb rear axle rating that the 2500 gets vs the 7000 lb rating of the 3500. The axle rating is reduced on account of the spring rating. Put a set of air bags on your 2500 and it will handle your Grand Design better than the 3500 SRW with higher payload numbers.

Just don't drive on RV.net... the weight police here will arrest you for being over the number on a magic sticker that didn't exist in vehicles 25 years ago but now is gospel!!!

But anywhere else you'll be fine as long as you register your 2500 to 11,000 lbs instead of 10,000 lbs.
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4x4ord
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The 3500 SRW and 2500 are very similar trucks. The payload rating is limited on account of the 6000 lb rear axle rating that the 2500 gets vs the 7000 lb rating of the 3500. The axle rating is reduced on account of the spring rating. Put a set of air bags on your 2500 and it will handle your Grand Design better than the 3500 SRW with higher payload numbers.
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Grit_dog
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p220sigman wrote:
As was said, if 2100 is dry weight, you will be way over by the time you add the hitch and anything else that inevitably gets added.


Nope.

Maybe some of you weight cops could actually explain once โ€œwhyโ€ you surmise this with some Real World backup.....
Hint, you canโ€™t. Because the truck wonโ€™t even flinch at those weights.
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Grit_dog
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ford truck guy wrote:
renojack wrote:
Tire sticker says 2021. Ram Brochure says 2310. Grand Dedign spec says 2090.


There is a yellow sticker inside the drivers door, somewhere on the door jamb.... That will all you what the exact payload capacities..


** IF ** The Grand Design shows a DRY pin weight of 2100..... You will be overweight ... with only 300 # of padding, that is NOT enough to add the hitch weight and stuff in the camper


Wrong
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Grit_dog
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Youโ€™ll get 2 dozen people here tell you you shouldnโ€™t exceed the artificially low rated payload based on 10k gvw.
But thatโ€™s false.
If you have air ride, youโ€™re good for about 3klbs before the air ride doesnโ€™t self level.
If you have coils, somewhere around 2500 Or greater pin youโ€™ll want to think about bags or Timbrens to help out the springs.
The rest of the truck is good for significantly more.
Youโ€™ll have zero issue with a smaller 5ver like youโ€™re planning on.
Happy campin!
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2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

renojack
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Explorer
Love the 337 Grand Design, but not enough to trade my 2016 Ram with 43k for a 3500. Thanks much for the advice.
RENOJACK
"The journey IS the destination"
2014 Denali 287RE TT
NV Plate "THETRLR"
2016 Ram 2500 Laramie Cummins 6.7
NV Plate "THE RAM"
Equalizer 1400#

p220sigman
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As was said, if 2100 is dry weight, you will be way over by the time you add the hitch and anything else that inevitably gets added.

renojack wrote:
Tire sticker says 2021. Ram Brochure says 2310. Grand Dedign spec says 2090.


There is a yellow sticker inside the drivers door, somewhere on the door jamb.... That will all you what the exact payload capacities..


** IF ** The Grand Design shows a DRY pin weight of 2100..... You will be overweight ... with only 300 # of padding, that is NOT enough to add the hitch weight and stuff in the camper
Me-Her-the kids
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renojack
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Tire sticker says 2021. Ram Brochure says 2310. Grand Dedign spec says 2090.
RENOJACK
"The journey IS the destination"
2014 Denali 287RE TT
NV Plate "THETRLR"
2016 Ram 2500 Laramie Cummins 6.7
NV Plate "THE RAM"
Equalizer 1400#

Tankcar
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Hello! The truck door jam plate say?

Lwiddis
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Didnโ€™t OP say 2500?
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