โJan-13-2017 10:27 AM
โJan-14-2017 07:15 PM
Camper G wrote:
Just my .02 from my recent truck purchase, but Chevy and ford were significantly more money than my dodge that has more options than the ford and Chevy in the same trim level (work truck) . The 17 Super Duty was very nice though. The Chevy was not as heavy duty underneath as ford and dodge, especially the front end components. In the end i liked the Ram the all around best of the 3.
โJan-14-2017 06:03 PM
โJan-14-2017 04:15 PM
โJan-14-2017 02:14 PM
Fordlover wrote:lenr wrote:
I've never used X-Plan, but I've been suspicious that it will lock you from further negotiating. X-Plan is right at invoice. Dealers like it because it reduces their price from Ford. It would be quick and easy negotiation for both purchaser and dealer. However, one "may" be able to negotiate better. I got my 2012 F-350 for $1400 below invoice because a sales manager was very rude and the owner wanted to make sure I left happy. After the $3750 of rebates, I was ecstatic. If past history is any indication Ford will start offering big rebates by May even in this new model year.
Most salesman prefer not to sell on an x-plan price. Why? because the potential for them to make significantly more $$ off the deal. See, when you have X-plan, Ford strictly regulates what fees can be charged by the dealer.
Example I poached from online source-
"We get reimbursed on X plan, any plan deal Ford gives us a commission on it. There's a calculation for it but it's a good profit.
X plan isn't all that bad, especially if you're in a high dealer handling fee state like myself.
Example:
X plan: $17,445
Dealer handling: $100
Total: $17,545
Non x plan: $17,150
Dealer handling: $698.95
Total: $17,848.95
In the end X plan is still cheaper."
Full disclosure: I worked at a Ford dealer for a few years back in the early 2000's.
โJan-14-2017 12:02 PM
โJan-14-2017 10:04 AM
โJan-14-2017 09:47 AM
lenr wrote:
I've never used X-Plan, but I've been suspicious that it will lock you from further negotiating. X-Plan is right at invoice. Dealers like it because it reduces their price from Ford. It would be quick and easy negotiation for both purchaser and dealer. However, one "may" be able to negotiate better. I got my 2012 F-350 for $1400 below invoice because a sales manager was very rude and the owner wanted to make sure I left happy. After the $3750 of rebates, I was ecstatic. If past history is any indication Ford will start offering big rebates by May even in this new model year.
โJan-14-2017 08:49 AM
โJan-14-2017 08:21 AM
lenr wrote:
I've never used X-Plan, but I've been suspicious that it will lock you from further negotiating. X-Plan is right at invoice. Dealers like it because it reduces their price from Ford. It would be quick and easy negotiation for both purchaser and dealer. However, one "may" be able to negotiate better. I got my 2012 F-350 for $1400 below invoice because a sales manager was very rude and the owner wanted to make sure I left happy. After the $3750 of rebates, I was ecstatic. If past history is any indication Ford will start offering big rebates by May even in this new model year.
โJan-14-2017 06:58 AM
โJan-14-2017 06:16 AM
โJan-13-2017 07:29 PM
WackAway wrote:
If you can afford it, I recommend the 2017 F350 4x4 with the 6.7L diesel and Lariat Ultimate with 5th wheel prep package. I bought my 40ft 5'r two weeks after getting the truck. The truck tows like a dream. Empty, it almost rides like a car and has tons of room inside. The 5'r hitch was a drop-in because of the 5'r package. It keeps track of the miles of the trailer is on and even has a dash towing checklist that is customizable per trailer. The Adaptive cruise control is better then canned beer if you ask me as it really helps on long hauls when following traffic. You can rest your foot instead of hovering over the gas/brake.
As far as power goes, I can pass the chuggers and maintain as steady 60mph going up to Tahoe. And on the flipside of that, the automatic jake-brake coupled with the adaptive cruise coming back keeps the brakes nice and cool.
Just my opinion, your mileage may vary ๐
โJan-13-2017 06:36 PM
โJan-13-2017 05:01 PM