RV Fuel Issues & Prices - Post 'Em Here!

[Dick_A]

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[winkyb]

I rode my bicycle to Wall Mart to get a part for my boat today.Saved enough gas to run the boat thirty seconds maybe. But every little bit helps.

[crudeman]

I dont think any of us has all the answers and probably will never either, but I worked around the business for a long time and I do understand some of the working side of it. I believe still as just happen the prices finally hit a no-tolerate price and it appears folks have pushed back as of Memorial weekend and hence the prices are starting to slowly fall back. How far is anyones guess.
What I do think is that the oil companies do not owe us anything, cheap fuel etc. they are a business and they are in the business of making money. There again I have seen good times and real bad times when I worked there.
I think govt. controls would be the worst thing we could have happen. Its our own personal decisions on how much and what price to pay for fuel period. It affects me as much as anyone, but I adjust to what I need to do to continue my full time lifestyle.
If anyone person has all the answers talking about here on the rant forum probably not going to solve the world problems. Joking sometimes helps break the tension I believe.

[stevenicoldeact]

AO_hitech wrote:

wing_zealot wrote:
I just had a big long post all typed up, was proof reading it, then I just said "Ah Heck With it".

Fortunately for me we have plenty of reasonable members here who want to engage in discussion instead of name calling and insults.

...unfortunately there are not enough reasonable members who can't do anything but "flame." We can choose to laugh at those jokesters, which most of them are, or we can give up like Wing Zealot did because: too bad...

[AO_hitech]

wing_zealot wrote:
I just had a big long post all typed up, was proof reading it, then I just said "Ah Heck With it".

Fortunately for me we have plenty of reasonable members here who want to engage in discussion instead of name calling and insults.

[topflite51]

wing_zealot wrote:

AO_hitech wrote:

CRay wrote:
I'm unwilling to attempt to educate this audience, some have nothing better to do than flame what they don't comprehend.

One thing I don't understand (never have) is what benefit does futures trading have? Other than to make money for those doing the trading? What service does it provide?

I just had a big long post all typed up, was proof reading it, then I just said "Ah Heck With it". He don't get it, never will get it, has already decided commodities traders are the scum of the earth, and it would just be a waste of server bytes on him. Enjoy your delusions!

That is probably better than having your nice long post poofed, because, well just because.:B

[wing_zealot]

AO_hitech wrote:

CRay wrote:
I'm unwilling to attempt to educate this audience, some have nothing better to do than flame what they don't comprehend.

One thing I don't understand (never have) is what benefit does futures trading have? Other than to make money for those doing the trading? What service does it provide?

I just had a big long post all typed up, was proof reading it, then I just said "Ah Heck With it". He don't get it, never will get it, has already decided commodities traders are the scum of the earth, and it would just be a waste of server bytes on him. Enjoy your delusions!

[traxtermax]

topflite51 wrote:
....o' where did I go wrong.....

You weren't wrong by much. Right church, wrong pew.:B

[Hurricaner]

What the government can do is to guaranty the oil companies a minimum price for shale oil, say 75 dollars a barrel. This will get the ball rolling on shale production. Without this guaranty it will be years before they will risk the massive investment necessary.

Sam

[topflite51]

....o' where did I go wrong.....

[traxtermax]

topflite51 wrote:
Anyone, and I do mean anyone, who feels that the United States government will solve our energy problems are truly smoking something illegal. They need to come up with a program,I agree (I think I'm getting sick and starting to convulse :B) and they must fund the research and development to make sure the program is efficient and sustainable, THEN turn it over to private enterprise once it's proven practical and profitable.....

[topflite51]

Anyone, and I do mean anyone, who feels that the United States government will solve our energy problems are truly smoking something illegal. They need to come up with a program, but the implementation and the successful completion of any such program lies with the American entrepreneurial businessmen. Like it or not, goverment can't do it. Their recent track record, says they can't and that they won't do it.

[traxtermax]

slowlane wrote:
...Imagine turning US oil industry management over to the same Washington DC clowns who have already hamstrung US energy production, who have a nearly unbroken record of fiasco in trying to manage any complex enterprise (Katrina response, immigration & border control, leading the US toward "energy independence, "War on Drugs", "War on Poverty", etc, etc),

Somehow, I can't see the American business man rushing to dole out money and services (however inept) for these fiascos -- after all, such action would produce negative profit margins.

[traxtermax]

stevenicol wrote:

AO_hitech wrote:
...I'd say those using it as a method to simply make money for "nothing" are what is wrong with capitalism.

...and others would say that those trading commodities "as a method to simply make money" are the kernel of the entrepreneurial spirit that powers capitalism!

I'm sure Ken Lay would agree with that. Apparently, in a way, he sometimes sold "nothing" for a lot of money.

[slowlane]

I won't quote that big blast of socialist propaganda above, but will just be glad most Americans won't buy the baloney that Washington DC politicians and bureaucrats could do a better job of running the oil industry than capitalists.

A large part of the global oil industry problem is that most of the big oil companies are government owned and operated, which is why when their current pumps start to run dry, they are so incompetent about developing new production. Do you think it is coincidence that the countries with declining production (Mexico, Norway, UK, Russia, and yes, the US) typically have the local oil industry under government heel? If not in through direct government control, then as in the US through restrictions on development.

Imagine turning US oil industry management over to the same Washington DC clowns who have already hamstrung US energy production, who have a nearly unbroken record of fiasco in trying to manage any complex enterprise (Katrina response, immigration & border control, leading the US toward "energy independence, "War on Drugs", "War on Poverty", etc, etc), and who at this moment are debating a monstrous idiotic global warming bill to drive our fuel and energy prices even higher. Duh!

[stevenicoldeact]

AO_hitech wrote:
...I'd say those using it as a method to simply make money for "nothing" are what is wrong with capitalism.

...and others would say that those trading commodities "as a method to simply make money" are the kernel of the entrepreneurial spirit that powers capitalism!