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I believe my coil is bad on my Onan 4BGE generator

maillemaker
Explorer
Explorer
Hi all:

Generator is Onan 4BGEFA26101A

Which I take to be a 4BGE, Spec A, Onan Generator.

The generator cranks, but will not start.

I used a spark tester light, which goes between the spark plug and the boot, to determine that there is no spark to the outward-facing spark plug. I did not bother to check the inward-facing plug once I determined there was no spark on the outward plug. I tested the plug light on the RV engine itself and the light works.

I removed the coil from the genset, and performed the following resistance tests on the primary and secondary coils:



It looks like the primary coil is good, measuring 3.6 Ohms. It should measure between 3.87 and 4.73 Ohms. It is a little under but this is probably OK.



I believe the secondary coil is bad, measuring only 17.4 K Ohms. It should measure between 34.0 and 41.6 K Ohms. This is way out of spec, and indicates a shorted coil according to the manual.



Does everyone agree I'm reading my Ohm meter correctly? I'm not an electrical person.

The coil is marked 166-0761:




This coil with built-in mounting brackets does not appear to be available anymore. I see replacements, with separate bracket, available on ebay.

Some are listed as HE166-0761. What is the difference between HE166-0671 and 166-0671?

Here is a non-HE one for $86:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Ignition-Coil-For-Onan-Generator-Welder-Factory-541-0522-Replaces-166-0761/173128934985

And here is an HE one for $60:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Replaces-Onan-Ignition-Coil-P-Model-541-0522-166-0820-HE166-0761-HE541-0522/173225446794

Thanks,
Steve
1990 Winnebago Warrior. "She may not look like much but she's got it where it counts!"

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midnightsadie
Explorer II
Explorer II
possible its a fuse?

Kpackpackkelley
Explorer
Explorer
Ok 166-0761 would be for the spec g I was looking at spec a.

maillemaker
Explorer
Explorer
OK, the coil is not bad. Now that I know I have a Spec G genset, when I read the section for Spec G gensets it says:



So, my primary coil is just a hair low, and probably fine, and my secondary coil is also just barely a hair low. So my coil is probably within specs for a Spec G genset.

So now I have to figure out why I'm not getting any spark.

Steve
1990 Winnebago Warrior. "She may not look like much but she's got it where it counts!"

maillemaker
Explorer
Explorer
Looked in the parts manual and it shows 166-0772 it is available.


Do you have a link to a source?

Also, I just discovered that the genset is actually a 4BGEF826101G. This is from the tag on the genset, which differs from the RV owner's manual summary page!

This is good news, as it means that I have electronic rather than points-based ignition.

Steve
1990 Winnebago Warrior. "She may not look like much but she's got it where it counts!"

Kpackpackkelley
Explorer
Explorer
Looked in the parts manual and it shows 166-0772 it is available.

Kpackpackkelley
Explorer
Explorer
Also go here he can tell you about those two coils also. https://www.onanparts.com

Kpackpackkelley
Explorer
Explorer
I donโ€™t know the difference in the two coils you show but you did clean the corrosion out of the female sockets on the coil ? That gen will run on one cylinder so I would check the other plug wire too. SR Sales has a lot of old onan parts call them. https://www.srsoemparts.com
Youโ€™ll have to call them tomorrow. Go here and post your problem too.
https://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=1