Uh Oh.....Dodge/Cummins Emissions Law Suit

[Old-Biscuit]

It appears that they didn't fully divulge the real story on emmissions with the 6.7L diesel in 2007-2012 trucks

The case is Bledsoe v. FCA USA LLC, 16-cv-14024, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan (Detroit).

LINK

[Me_Again]

Now now! This thread is going to be history!

[spoon059]

NJRVer wrote:
Talk about personal responsibility...How many lawsuits does Trump have going?
Sheesh.

Trump is one single person. I am referring to the very large percentage (not all, but a large percent) of liberal voters who are voting simply to keep receiving benefits from social programs. There is a difference...

[drittal]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

drittal wrote:
1) Doesn't cummins design the emmissions equipment for Dodge/Ram?
yes they do

2) doesn't this fall in the time line of when Daimler owned chrysler?
DamnLiar sold Chrysler to Cerberus in 2007. However those trucks where already designed by Damnliar as Cerberus designed nothing.

So why is FCA being named in lawsuit?

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

drittal wrote:
1) Doesn't cummins design the emmissions equipment for Dodge/Ram?
yes they do

2) doesn't this fall in the time line of when Daimler owned chrysler?
DamnLiar sold Chrysler to Cerberus in 2007. However those trucks where already designed by Damnliar as Cerberus designed nothing.

[NJRVer]

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:
People have no sense of "Personal Responsibility" it is never their fault that they got hurt for misusing a product.

And just think, if not for the Electoral College we might have another 4 years where personal responsibility is shunned...

100% agree with you here!

Talk about personal responsibility...How many lawsuits does Trump have going?
Sheesh.

[Perrysburg_Dodg]

spoon059 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:
People have no sense of "Personal Responsibility" it is never their fault that they got hurt for misusing a product.

And just think, if not for the Electoral College we might have another 4 years where personal responsibility is shunned...

100% agree with you here!

[drittal]

1) Doesn't cummins design the emmissions equipment for Dodge/Ram?
2) doesn't this fall in the time line of when Daimler owned chrysler?

[spoon059]

rhagfo wrote:
People have no sense of "Personal Responsibility" it is never their fault that they got hurt for misusing a product.

And just think, if not for the Electoral College we might have another 4 years where personal responsibility is shunned...

[rhagfo]

TexasChaps wrote:

Airstreamer67 wrote:
I see the attorney in Mississippi just dropped his case against Popeye's Chicken because he and his family were being criticized for his effort to right a great wrong.

It seems he, the attorney, had choked on a piece of fried chicken because he wasn't given a knife to cut it with. Without the needed knife, he, the attorney, was forced to rip the chicken off the bone with only his bare teeth! This caused some of the brutalized meat to lodge in this throat, and it required medical intervention to correct the problem.

He, the attorney, says that even though he dropped the suit in order to save him and his family, he hopes the chicken company learned its lesson and will begin supplying knives to eat its fried chicken with in the future.

Probably not. After all, McDonald's didn't seem to learn its lesson. It's still serving coffee hot, despite the lawsuit brought by the lady with the burned loins.

perhaps the attorney could learn to eat properly.. but that would be too simple.. easier to start a frivolous lawsuit.. these people.. sigh..

LOL!!!!

Let's not forget that it is likley that almost 100% of the warning labels on the stuff we buy is the result of some stupid lawsuit!!
People have no sense of "Personal Responsibility" it is never their fault that they got hurt for misusing a product.

[RobertRyan]

Grodyman wrote:
What's the pollution factor for all those "Clean Diesel" trucks driving down the freeway belching toxic white smoke while they "Regen?" After owning a 2009 F350 6.4 for a year, I can smell that "clean" sickening stench for miles. I'm guessing the carcinogen factor during regen is 1000X the output of an older, normal diesel engine. And our freeways are stacked with big rigs in a constant state of "Regen."

These new trucks may be cleaner for 275 driven miles, but they more than make up for it during the 25-50 miles while in regen that I doubt in the end there is any real benefit. I suspect, that in fact, regen pollution may be more toxic.

Actually quite a few from Gas engines here are some

6.1 NOx. 6.2 Volatile organic compounds. 6.3 Ozone. 6.4 Carbon monoxide (CO) 6.5 Hazardous air pollutants (toxics) 6.6 Particulate matter (PM10 and PM2.5) 6.7 Carbon dioxide (CO2) 6.8 Water vapor. 6.8.1 Water recovery.

[Grodyman]

What's the pollution factor for all those "Clean Diesel" trucks driving down the freeway belching toxic white smoke while they "Regen?" After owning a 2009 F350 6.4 for a year, I can smell that "clean" sickening stench for miles. I'm guessing the carcinogen factor during regen is 1000X the output of an older, normal diesel engine. And our freeways are stacked with big rigs in a constant state of "Regen."

These new trucks may be cleaner for 275 driven miles, but they more than make up for it during the 25-50 miles while in regen that I doubt in the end there is any real benefit. I suspect, that in fact, regen pollution may be more toxic.

[alboy]

The humor is great guys ,keep it coming,quite Refreshing!!

[FishOnOne]

I can't help but wonder how did Ram/cummins fix the soot clogging emissions problems with the 6.7ctd from 07.5-12. The supposed fix was to be a new calibration that fixed some trucks but did not fix others.

I suspect that calibration change was controlling the EGR duty cycle and volume to reduce soot build up in the EGR cooler, EGR valve, turbo and the DPF, but could have come at the expense of meeting EPA requirements.

Ram Owners accuse emission cheating

[hone_eagle]

Would anybody be surprised if the Ford 1/2 ton diesel is delayed.?

um final calibration is taking longer then expected.............