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Furnace running requires hookup or engine running?

Jjarrell50
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Iโ€™ve rented a 2012 sprinter airstream, class b, to run the furnance (lpg) I have to have van engine running, be hooked up to power, or generating running. This seems odd to me. Itโ€™s propane seems like battery would be enough for thermostat and whatever electric is needed to manage.

So if Iโ€™m dry camping, to get heat at night I need engine running, which is awkward at 3am.

Does this sound right?
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rlw999
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IAMICHABOD wrote:
rlw999 wrote:
When I rented an RV from CruiseAmerica, their rental contract (as well as a sticker in the bathroom) said the same thing -- said if I didn't return it with both waste valves open I'd have to pay a dump fee.

:h Is this for real? That may be why I have seen on a few occasions a Cruise America Rental leave a campground with the dump valve open and the cap off spilling the left over contents all over when they leave.


Yep, unfortunately, it's for real, check out page 57 of their renters guide:

Remember to return the unit with the waste tanks empty, valves open and the waste cap off (where permitted by law) or you will be charged a dumping fee.


There was a sticker in the bathroom saying the same thing, wish I'd have gotten a photo of it.

Interestingly, earlier in the same renters guide it says:

REMEMBER: NEVER DRIVE THE MOTORHOME WITH THE WASTE DRAIN OPEN OR WITH THE CAP OFF. (SEE P. 57, RETURNING THE MOTORHOME)

MrWizard
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I know these threads drift
But open holding tank valves, are a long ways from weak battery problems
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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IAMICHABOD
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rlw999 wrote:
When I rented an RV from CruiseAmerica, their rental contract (as well as a sticker in the bathroom) said the same thing -- said if I didn't return it with both waste valves open I'd have to pay a dump fee.

:h Is this for real? That may be why I have seen on a few occasions a Cruise America Rental leave a campground with the dump valve open and the cap off spilling the left over contents all over when they leave.
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rlw999
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wopachop wrote:
He told me i had to bring back the trailer with both drain valves open.


When I rented an RV from CruiseAmerica, their rental contract (as well as a sticker in the bathroom) said the same thing -- said if I didn't return it with both waste valves open I'd have to pay a dump fee.

I ignored it and closed the valves after dumping, and they didn't charge any fee. No matter how well I rinsed the blackwater tank, I don't see how I could avoid dumping some residual blackwater on the road on my way back to the rental place.

Figured I'd dispute the fee if they tried to charge it, but they barely looked it over when I returned it, just walked around to look for any obvious damage.

wopachop
Explorer
Explorer
Should of. Not a fake story. I was a total newb this was 15 years ago. I literally pulled over to a rural area and opened the black tank valve. It was already drained. But i knew it would leak things as i continue to drive around.

Bad memory. Looking back i wish i could have opened the valve on his property.

dedmiston
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wopachop wrote:
I rented a trailer twice. Same guy. He told me i had to bring back the trailer with both drain valves open. Which means spilling feces onto the street.


I hope you waited until you got to his property to open the valves. :E

I wonder if he intended you to leave the cap on? That would have saved the street, but the next guy would have been sorry when he opened the cap.

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stevenal
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Take the battery to an auto parts store for testing and provide results to owner.
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wopachop
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Explorer
I rented a trailer twice. Same guy. He told me i had to bring back the trailer with both drain valves open. Which means spilling feces onto the street.

That same guy showed up camping. We were 2 hours away from where he rents the trailers. He straight up came to pick up the trailer. The renters said wait.....didnt we rent until tomorrow? The dude said nope and made them empty the trailer. It was a family. They had to stay in a friends trailer.

I couldnt believe what i saw. I dont think that renter guy remembered me. But i sure remembered him. Hopefully his business ended up failing because he was not into customer service at all. Was probably a fake business for some other stuff he was doing is my guess.

Jjarrell50
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Yes, agreed. Iโ€™m already planning what Iโ€™m going to say. I came to the forum as I am a novice to rv. Thanks to everyone.

wopachop
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Jjarrell50 wrote:
Itโ€™s rvshare, like Airbnb for rv. Owner indicates this is normal.
Help others and leave an honest review. You rented a trailer. Battery is too low to run the furnace. You asked the owner and he said its normal.

So inform others that the owner thinks its normal for people not familiar with RVs to go messing around measuring battery voltage. Troubleshooting issues while on vacation.

opnspaces
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Jjarrell50 wrote:
Itโ€™s rvshare, like Airbnb for rv. Owner indicates this is normal. But the coach is a 2012 with 115k miles. A lot of things he has said as normal are not. Many warnings on dash, including check engine light are not normal. Avoid handbrake, it gets stuck,

Maybe evidence of house battery weak, engine has to be running to start generator.


I love it. While we might all agree this is not normal; what the owner is saying is that is all normal for his abused rental RV.
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MrWizard
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When the battery is that low, the fridge does not work, and is no more than a cooler,
From a practical stand point
If you are going to continue renting this RV,
Replace the battery, consider it part of the ongoing rental expense, changing RVs would probably cost more than replacing battery,
then run the generator
2 hrs in the morning and 2 hours in the evening,
This will keep the battery in shape so the furnace can provide heat, and the fridge doesn't defrost and food spoil
1 hour a day is not enough, good battery or bad,
You must replace all the amp hours of power used, on a regular basis
Running the engine or generator to charge a bad battery is a waste of fuel,
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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Dusty_R
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Explorer
Maybe the rental place had it wired that way to keep the battery from running so quickly.